On Tue, 2002-12-24 at 15:53, Vincent Danen wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday, December 24, 2002, at 12:37 PM, mike wrote:
> 
> [...]
> >> I don't think the "vampires" would respond as they have nothing to do
> >> with MandrakeSoft anymore.  =)
> >
> > Mandrake is a great distribution and I hope it stays around.I believe 
> > an open
> > source project should be a lean machine.I think Mandrake needs to take
> > inventory and trim the fat.Focus on what they do best.Long Live 
> > Mandrake.
> 
> And just what do you think we've been doing over the last few months?  
> =)
> 
> I'd say a lot of fat has been trimmed.  The machine is *really* lean 
> right now... thus the increase of capital.  This is required for 
> Mandrake to remain any kind of machine.  The end result will be a lean 
> machine (not too lean, mind you... can't put out a distro with only 10 
> people!).

The fact of the matter is that TOO much fat was trimmed.  The muscle was
getting sliced.  There were good people that were laid off that should
have never had to go because they were productives, but yet were forced
to because of the clueless "venture capitalists".

We need to get Mandrake back to the point where they can start hiring
again and bring some folks back on board.

> Bottom line is this:  It's time for people to step up to the plate and 
> walk the walk, not just talk the talk.  We've done what we had to do, 
> and very painfully at times, to get MandrakeSoft where it is right 
> now... we had a *lot* to recover from, which civileme touched on.  
> We've done that.  But for us to continue, the community has to show a 
> little support.

Amen.  I've transferred funds out of savings for this, and when they
become available after Christmas, I'm upgrading to silver.  Even though
technically I can't afford it right now.  But I'm going to feel some
personal pain in order to get this done, because that's how much I
believe in this company and what they do.

If there was a Lug started here, I'd be pushing Mandrake for all it is
worth.

> I know what I want to be doing next Christmas.. playing with Mandrake 
> 9.2.  The question is, what do you want to be doing next Christmas?  
> Also playing with Mandrake 9.2 or being frustrated at having to use a 
> lesser distribution?  Or another OS entirely?

Excellent point.

> For those who feel similar sentiments (ie. "Long Live Mandrake" and "I 
> hope it stays around"), I would sincerely ask you to put your money 
> where your mouth is.  It's one thing to say you would like Mandrake to 
> be around forever and how much you love it, it's an entirely different 
> story to support the cause financially.
> 
> I would also recommend that, despite some problems a few people have 
> had, people purchase their boxed sets of Mandrake from MandrakeStore.  
> We see a lot more revenue this way than if you go down the block to 
> whatever store you shop at and purchase it.  Putting money into 
> distributor and retailer pockets doesn't help MandrakeSoft.  

I made this suggestion too, quite some time ago; hopefully the majority
of folks have been going to the Mandrake store.


> If a box 
> set isn't that important to you (ie. you don't need nice packaging and 
> a printed manual), then getting a MandrakeClub subscription is the best 
> way to go.  Club generates the highest percentage of revenue, and every 
> penny counts.  Plus, with Club, all the goodies you get on your CDs in 
> the box set you can get online (great for broadband users, maybe not so 
> great for dialup users).


> All these things will help keep Mandrake alive.
> 
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Excellent post.  And merry christmas, Vincent. :)

--LX



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