civileme schrieb: > On Wednesday 12 March 2003 10:47 pm, Adrian Golumbovici > wrote: > > Funny stuff which I don't really understand is that in > installer I could > > select my radeon, and XFree86 4.3.0 with hardware > acceleration with no prob > > and the test would show the X screen in my chosen > resolution and colors, > > but after reboot X doesn't start anymore with the > classical error that no > > screens were found. > > > > Is anything different in the X screen showed during the > config test in > > installer and the way X starts normally?!? > > I would expect that if my hardware combination isn't > supported, then also > > the test inside the configuration part of the installer > would choke too... > > > > :/ > > > > Best regards, > > Adrian > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "civileme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:25 PM > > Subject: Re: [expert] A7N8X and Radeon 9700 Pro under > ML 9.1?!? > > > > > On Wednesday 12 March 2003 09:21 am, Adrian > Golumbovici wrote: > > > > Hi mates, > > > > > > > > I managed to solve my crash problem with the A7V8X > and 1GB of mem by > > > > changing it against a A7N8X :). Easiest sollution > ever (but expensive > > > > tho > > > > > > :) ). Anyway, my problem now is that I am sick of > running my Radeon as > > > > : Vesa. > > > > > > > > Till now agpgart doesn't want to load on this board > (nforce2 chipset) > > > > even > > > > > > with agp_try_unsupported=1 and nvidia provides no > driver for its agp > > > > beside > > > > > > the nvagp module in the drivers for their graphics > cards. Since I have > > > > an > > > > > > ATI card I am not sure how to make it work in a > better mode than vesa > > > > on > > > > my > > > > > > mainboard. I read a lot of things on the net and I > can shorten the long > > > > story to the following: > > > > > > > > 1. Some suggesting to try to install the NVIDIA rpm > and then use the > > > > nvagp > > > > > > module with the ATI card. No answer from the > original poster if it > > > > worked. > > > > > > :/ > > > > > > > > 2. The current kernel agpgart module lacks the > description for this > > > > card and though some people offered to write the > driver provided > > > > someone can help with collecting the needed info, > the post was left "in > > > > the air", so > > > > no > > > > > > news there... > > > > 3. Some reported they managed to run their Radeon > 9700 Pro as "pci" and > > > > not > > > > > > "AGP" on this type of motherboard, but also no > details provided upon > > > > how > > > > to > > > > > > do that?!? PCI is a lot better than vesa anyway, > but have no clue how > > > > to > > > > do > > > > > > that. They said they got 320fps in glxgears. > > > > 4. Some said that AGP is needed just to do some > texture loading(?!? > > > > whatever that is), but if the card has enough > memory on the card > > > > (radeon 9700 Pro comes with 128MB) you don't > absolutely need it and > > > > that you can run it as PCI (again?!? but again no > clue how?!?) and > > > > works just fine > > > > (just > > > > > > a tad slower than if ran in AGP on other > motherboards where agpgart > > > > support > > > > > > exists. > > > > > > > > I am as clueless as a baby in a topless bar :) > about how to get the > > > > best out of my card under linux. I really want to > try some gaming under > > > > linux, > > > > > > but with vesa mode and Mesagl I can go smoke a > cigar till next frame > > > > comes > > > > > > on the screen.... Please help. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Adrian > > > > > > Well the truth is that the ATi boards are very poorly > supported in linux, > > > largely because tech info is so hard to get out of > ATi, so drivers > > > usually run a few generations behind the current ATi > board models. > > > Recently ATi > > > > has > > > > > shown some interest in providing drivers ... If they > would open the > > > > source, > > > > > things would be much easier for all concerned. > > > > > > Civileme > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >- ---- > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > The installer runs without strict rules about the video, > but the server proper > does NOT. That means there is some sort of screen > sort-of working and that > it can be displayed during installation. When the > server checks with > strictness, errors are found which would cause screen > crashes or other nasty > events so it refuses to set up the device. > > The proper solution is time; however, I think you will > also discover that the > ability of that NForce chipset is quite pleasant to the > eye and relatively > high performance. Potentially, those NForce chipsets are > the fastest of all > if they ever get the enhancements in hardware and the > drivers completely > straight. The bandwidth involved is for mostly > communication between north > and south bridge of the chipset where the video is > built-in (potentially very > very fast) and it is the equivalent of a Geforce card. I > have had great > experiences with the A7N266-VM, though of course the > driver is binary-only > and the kernel is thereby tainted with an unknown, if you > want 3D > acceleration. > > But the Radeon drivers eventually work. It is just a > huge job to > reverse-engineer from a company as close-mouthed as ATi. > The 9700 will > probably be supported by a later version of XFree. > > > > Civileme > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com >
A few questions tho... XFree86 4.3.0 is supposed to support the Radeon 9700 (to what extent... I couldn't find any info on their site). I think the agpgart might be the prob. I am wondering if the agpgart module supports at least the nforce (not the nforce2) chipset. If I am not mistaken it doesn't though it has been on the market for quite a while now. That is probably due to the lack of support from nvidia. I am thinking of helping reverse engineering the AGP part of the board so we could have support also for nforce2, but I dunno how to do that. I am a programmer myself but never went that deep in linux stuff. I would need all the help I can get on this matter. Second question would be: Is there any chance to tell XFree86 not to do those strict tests anymore? The system on which the problem is, is my "play station" so I am not that sad if linux gets trashed in the process (I can always reinstall and start all over again). Any chance of finding usefull stuff in implementing the agpgart for this board from the NVIDIA_kernel sources which builds the NVAGP? I've seen they provide a tarball and sorce rpm for unsupported linux versions, and their NVAGP is supposed to work with the nforce2... Best regards, Adrian
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