except it conveniently deletes all the comments. Even if it was perfect, how is that different than the whole sendmail heinousness? I have a policy against software that requires an external configger anyway; Webmin, Swat, Linuxconf, Comanche... if it's too complex to configure directly without a tool, it's too complex for me to be running it. Running things I don't understand is asking for trouble IMHO. Especially since all of those configgers except Webmin have fallen out of favor over the years... what do you do when your configger becomes obsolete? How do you troubleshoot a wrong configger?
I make an exception for shorewall, life is too short to configure netfilter directly, and I do understand what shorewall is doing :-) On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 12:39, Lawson, Jim wrote: > Have you tried swat. I think it makes it a little easier. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack Coates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 3:30 PM > To: Mandrake Expert List > Subject: Re: [expert] All I want to do is FTP > > > trying to figure out why Samba isn't working... two hours > looking for alternatives network transfer mechanisms... one hour > sneaker-netting the data with removable media... six hours > > downloading pscp.exe and simply transferring the files... priceless > > :-) > > I mean, honestly. I've got nearly ten years of earning a living with > computers under my belt, I'm MCSE and LPIC-2 certified, and I've spent > over half my career working with networks and firewalls. I still can't > configure Samba properly on the first try, and usually not on the second > or third either. I know a couple of admins who are comfortable with > Samba, but most admins in my circle fight for hours and days to get it > set up and then stay the hell away from it. > > Recommending that a newbie jump in and start hacking smb.conf and > smbpasswd is like asking Jack Black to win an Ironman :-) > > > > On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 12:08, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote: > > samba then? > > Mount a linux filesystem via samba to the inferrior > > breed. > > > > Richard > > > > > > --- David Rankin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Good point, but it presupposes that the "other > > > comuputer" is a Linux box and > > > not some inferrior breed that doesn't understand scp > > > ;-) > > > > > > -- > > > David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. > > > RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC > > > 510 Ochiltree Street > > > Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 > > > (936) 715-9333 > > > (936) 715-9339 fax > > > -- > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jack Coates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Mandrake Expert List" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 10:16 AM > > > Subject: Re: [expert] All I want to do is FTP > > > > > > > > > > you know what I do when I want to transfer a big > > > bunch of files? > > > > scp -r big-buncha-files > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/new/home/of/files > > > > > > > > You can also use: > > > > > > > > scp -r [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/big/buncha/files > > > /new/home/of/files > > > > > > > > It's a little more CPU-intensive than FTP'ing > > > them, but who cares? It's > > > > also a lot easier than installing a temporary FTP > > > server, especially > > > > since you've probably already got sshd up and > > > running on at least one of > > > > the boxes. > > > > > > > > IMHO the FTP protocol is dying the slow and > > > painful death that it so > > > > richly deserves. It won't be missed. > > > > > > > > Jack > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 07:27, David Rankin wrote: > > > > > Worse comes to worse, try: > > > > > > > > > > # vi /etc/xinetd.d/wu-ftpd > > > > > > > > > > service ftp > > > > > { > > > > > disable = yes > > > > > socket_type = stream > > > > > wait = no > > > > > user = root > > > > > server = > > > /usr/sbin/in.ftpd > > > > > server_args = -l -a > > > > > log_on_success += DURATION > > > USERID > > > > > log_on_failure += USERID > > > > > nice = 10 > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > ** Change disable to = no > > > > > > > > > > Then > > > > > > > > > > # /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart > > > > > > > > > > ftp away. > > > > > > > > > > THEN DISABLE wu-ftpd and restart xinetd. You > > > don't want to leave wu-ftpd > > > up. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. > > > > > RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC > > > > > 510 Ochiltree Street > > > > > Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 > > > > > (936) 715-9333 > > > > > (936) 715-9339 fax > > > > > -- > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 3:12 AM > > > > > Subject: [expert] All I want to do is FTP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I finally got my 9.1 Mandrake working > > > wonderfully as a server. All my > > > > > > virtual web pages work wonderfully.. and now I > > > am ready to open an FTP > > > > > > connection so I can finish uploading a ton of > > > files from a different > > > > > > computer. > > > > > > > > > > > > Only problem is, I don't know how to get FTP > > > to work in this version. > > > > > > > > > > > > I've downloaded PROFTPD and tried to get that > > > to work, but after a few > > > > > > questions to the PROFTPD mail list, and a few > > > days of searching Google > > > for > > > > > > help, and reading the PROFTPD faq, I still > > > can't FTP to my new server. > > > > > > The people on the PROFTPD mail list won't even > > > reply to my questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > Should I even be using PROFTP? What can I do, > > > if even for a basic FTP > > > > > > setup, to get FTP to work on my server? I'll > > > be glad to remove > > > PROFTPD > > > > > > and use whatever works. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions will be happily appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > James > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > > > > > ---- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from > > > MandrakeSoft? > > > > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from > > > MandrakeSoft? > > > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > -- > > > > Jack Coates > > > > Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ---- > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from > > > MandrakeSoft? > > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from > > MandrakeSoft? > > > > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! 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