Guys, No matter what, this is a fact: we are going to have a world-class unicode implementation. I know this because Dan knows his stuff and I trust him to solve problems like this.
However, there's the implementation and then there's the api. I just wanted to point out and emphasize in case someone is confused, I'm arguing, strongly, confidently, vehemently, and relentlessly, about the api, not the backend design or implementation. Nobody, and I mean nobody, has mastered Factor and therefore designing api's and stack effects is still an art. So in this particular part of the problem, since nobody is an expert, all the experienced Factor coders should weigh in if they have an opinion. There is no way I would ever argue with Dan about the technical details of how to implement unicode. But when it comes to stack effects and Factor library design, if I see a problem, I'm going to speak up. If I see a way to make an improvement, I'm going to speak up. Dan has two responsibilities. He has the first one taken care of: implement the unicode standard in a competent manner. His other responsibility is to provide an api which makes us, the programmers, productive and happy. I'm trying to help him with that part. If he can pick a design which kicks ass and satisfies us as programmers, then that's a very good thing. This is attainable. If you give up short of that attainable goal, simply because you made decisions early on and want to stick to them, even in the face of legitimate criticism, it will truly be a shame. In the end, Dan is the one who should get all the credit for this important step forward in Factor's evolution. Ed ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Factor-talk mailing list Factor-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/factor-talk