Hi everyone.
I'm very happy to have re-discovered Factor. It has come a long way in the
six or so years since I first examined it. I watched your Google Talks
presentation, and have read a good portion of http://factorcode.org/.
I'm a long-time (16 years) Smalltalker (VisualWorks and Dolphin mostly).
I'm mostly happy with Smalltalk, but seek more syntactic plasticity in my
development of more expressive, more readable DSLs of the CRUD variety. I
have a deep interest in linguistic ergonomics and human reading
efficiency/understanding. I think Factor will give me the expressive range
I need without hurting machine efficiency. If I recall correctly, the
Mandelbrot benchmark was half as fast as the C version. This is excellent
and comparable to what has been achieved with the Strongtalk VM.
I have been waiting for Frank Lesser of Lesser Software to finally release
the beta of his DNG (Dolphin Next Generation--Object Arts current frameworks
ported to Frank's Vision Smalltalk VM). This should be happening very soon,
and is a very exciting prospect, given the maturity/speed of the VM and the
fact that it is written in Frank's own assembler.
In the meantime, I thought I would see what I can accomplish with Factor.
If I'm successful, I'll move my private development efforts over to Factor.
My application space is simulation, math-modeling, and 3D graphics. Yes, I
ran the OpenGL shader demo. Impressive.
I need multi-processing, and fast inter-process queues to build an
Actor-like model for my application. Multithreading is useful too, but
foreseeably not as useful as multi-processing. I hope these are in the
works.
Two issues:
1) Smalltalk environments often offer a rich syntax highlighter and method
code formatter. I benefit greatly from being able to speed my reading with
the best mix of color and format. Do we have a preferred text editor and
text-styler (character color and emphasis) to go with it?
Do we have a text formatter?
I like NotePad++, but am flexible about the text editor, as long as it
supports Factor well. I'm running Windows 7 64-bit.
2) I'm having trouble building Factor. I'm doing it the "hard way" in three
separate steps. I've installed the Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7 and
.NET Framework 4.0 and Visual Studio 2010 Ultimate, and run the
vsvars32.bat. The 'path' environment variable looks correct, but executing
nmake /f Nmakefile x86-32
in a command box from the Factor Git-repository directory gives
nmake /nologo PLATFORM=x86-32 /f Nmakefile all
cl /EHsc /nologo /O2 /WX /W3 /D_CRT_SECURE_NO_WARNINGS
/Fovm/main-window
s.obj /c vm/main-windows.cpp
NMAKE : fatal error U1077: '"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio
10.0
\VC\bin\cl.EXE"' : return code '0xc0000135'
Stop.
NMAKE : fatal error U1077: '"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio
10.0
\VC\bin\nmake.EXE"' : return code '0x2'
Stop.
Searching around shows that many are having the same problem, but I've
either implemented all proposed solutions, or there is no solution offered.
Is there a fix? This is probably something simple I've overlooked.
Regards,
Shaping
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