--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 5/1/05 10:28 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > ********* > > > > I've seen MMY stumble walking down stairs, and certainly stuff like > > appearances at the Beach Boys concert (to give a TM lecture in front > > of kids who were waiting to hear the Boys perform) is a mistake, but > > these are merely tactical errors. The life-supporting influence of > > MMY is always right, and the big picture, the strategy, of the TM > > movement is right. > > > > Some of MMY observations are meant to be encouraging to ignorant > > people, like one tells a child trying to learn to ride a bike, not > > intended as holy writ. Recently MMY said at a press conference that > > it could take hundreds of centuries before the pundits made India > > Vedic. Frank talk like this may be discouraging to people, so he > > usually says things that predict quick success -- being truthful > > means being life-supporting. There is the old story of a sage sitting > > at a crossroads when an obviously distressed man runs by -- in a few > > moments, some bandits who were chasing the victim appeared and asked > > which way their mark went. The sage sent them down the wrong road. > > This was not factually true, but it was true to the life- supporting > > values that wise men follow, so it was true. Guru Dev sent MMY to > > enlighten a very very ignorant world, and in that process, MMY may > > have to not stick to the facts at every turn in order to successfully > > accomplish his important and divinely-mandated mission. >
> Bob, I sincerely find your faith admirable and at times, touching. I really > mean that. Sometimes you say things that take the wind out of the sails of > my on-going dialog with you. I hope that if you ever do become at all > disillusioned with Maharishi, it doesn't hurt you too much. I hope you find, > as JohnY expressed earlier, that "it removes some subtle conflict, and > lightens (your) heart." That's been my experience. Rather than bringing me > down, it has made me feel more free. Ultimately, one has to stand on one's > own two feet and not rely on another person or external source for > inspiration or upliftment. Not to say that everyone has to become > disillusioned with his guru in order to "graduate". Maharishi certainly > didn't. But if it happens, it's not the end of the world. You can still feel > tremendous gratitude toward him for all the blessings he brought you, and > forgive his shortcomings if that's what they are. ************* There's just no possibility that you are going to get what I am saying, because you are in the grip of factors that do not allow the blossoming of bliss consciousness, but for the sake of other readers who still have an interest: At one hour and 30 minutes into the 23Mar2005 press conference at mou.org, Maharishi says that it may take centuries for the pundits to restore Vedic civilization in India: http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Mar/wnews_23mar2005prt1_128 (the following week MMY said it may be "hundreds of centuries.") This possibility that the TM movement will not be successful in my lifetime is not "disillusioning" -- because the cycle of epochs of high and low consciousness are natural phenomena, just like the sun being seen in various positions in the sky and not at all -- and there's no possibility of disillusionment with MMY, because I am completely satisfied with my practice of TM and the Vedic wisdom that he has restated, and because I understand the difficulty of promoting enlightenment in a world that is in the grip of darkness. Sooner or later, everybody gets tired of the suffering attendant on not living one's natural state of bliss consciousness, and seeks enlightenment, so there is no reason to get disillusioned with anything -- people have complete freedom of action, and they choose at what level of life they want to live. When they get tired of the low-life, and they will, they will seek that which is of real value, bliss consciousness, maybe now or maybe 1000 centuries from now. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
