Ron, unfortuanately you're wasting your breath on these mala covered samsarins who insist on individuality and can not recognize the function of the ego in this belief that somehow realization of That includes individuality. Poor deluded bhogis. By the way, I'm not saying this, so there.
--- Ron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I suppose the paradox is there- maybe in thinking of > the snake and string it clears it up- > > The significant thing is a process of ilimination > for what is transcient and what is eternal. > All that which is transcient has a reality to it but > short lived and therefore no reality so a > paradox > > Last week, we had a gathering so one of the newly > enlightened was there. She was saying > the wonder of it all- for you can never get it but > yet It is there > > It again points to the headline of this post- as I > said earlier, you will see these comments > from Guru's speaking from this level of Being such > as Ramana Maharishi- I don't think you > will find this from TM's Maharihsi because it is > not know to him > > There is a good purpose in poiinting out if a Master > is enlightened or not. For those open > to this, examination can show why this possibility > exists one way or the other- then it > explains why one is confused, or why one has not > heard or understood these things which > Ramana talks about, or very significant is that the > disciple is not going to go further than > the Guru. > > There are two newly enlightened one's in my path > this year. By comparrison, Nityananda, > the guru of Muktananda left his body early and > stated there is not one that came seeking > eternal Liberation, but rather seeking out guidance > for a better "Me" > > Bottom line is enlightenment is really a possibility > this life time but the master has to be > enlightened, sat Guru, and then from the opinion of > my Guru, it is essencial to be working > one to one. The Guru is the light, the disciple is > in darkness which is ego ( identification of > mind and body as being the self, or the small self > is the existence) > > If one is using the inner Guru, visions, > revelatiuons, form of inner Guru of some Guru, it is > > fiultered through this ego. Ego will fight tooth and > nail to keep it 's throne, Outter Guru is > the light that has already traversed the path to > enlightenment and has the know how to > guide one in this darkness- out of it > > The formula for enlightenment is surrender to this > Guru which is consciousness, not mind > and body- 0r put it this way, one is surrendering to > consciosness. Faith is involved. If one > is intent on argueing, intent that they will use > their own inner guru, intent that they will do > their own navigating- then this process is obviously > not for them. > > in such a case, all that is said from this camp here > is good luck with your journey, may it > bring all that you are looking for > > > Hridaya Puri > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tertonzeno" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --Thanks, Bronte, I like your comments!. > > The statement, "There's only the One" is a true > statement, but it's > > incomplete, since a certain Guru with a name is > saying that. The Guru > > doesn't "have" a body....he is a body/mind as an > individual as > > opposed to other individuals, in the relative > sense. > > A more complete statement would be "There's only > One, which > > expresses Itself as many, without losing the > nonduality". > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz
