Billy and all, My comments are shown below:
> > > > Here is what Prabhupada commented on one of the slokas in the Srimad > > Bhagavatam, Canto 2, Chapter 10: > > > > "The heavenly pleasure for the conditioned soul is sexual pleasure, > >and > > this pleasure is tasted by the genitals. > > > What he is saying IMO is; for those souls that are 'conditioned', that > is their happiness is based on 'conditions' in the material world > (object oriented), their highest pleasure is derived thru the genitals. > By TM standards and a few orthodox religions, this assertion may be true. But there are others who do not believe that they are conditioned. Thus, they are subjected to the three gunas, the sufferings of the world. But it is likely they don't know that or won't accept it. At worst, they would blame everyone else for their sufferings. > > The woman is the object of > > sexual pleasure, and both the sense perception of sexual pleasure >and > > the woman are controlled by the Prajapati, who is under the control >of > > the Lord's genitals. > > The parjapati is the deity that presides over procreation. > Prajapatis are also considered to be the executives of cosmic order. > > > > The impersonalist must know from this verse that > > the Lord is not impersonal, for He has His genitals, on which all >the > > pleasurable objects of sex depend. > > Not sure what he means here other than the Lord is all of creation > including the genitals of all humans......?? Prabhupad use to say that > "everything belongs to God" and the criterion of success is if it > pleases God. IMO, he is criticizing those philosophers who teach notions of the Supreme Being in terms of intellectual sophistication and arguments, as in Plato's ideas of Being. Prabhupada is saying the Supreme Being has body parts that are "similar" to human beings. This line of argument is not so different from the Judeo-Christian religion tradition. > > >No one would have taken the trouble > > to maintain children if there were no taste of heavenly nectar by > >means > > of sexual intercourse...." > > > Under the direction of the prajapati humans are enticed (thru sexual > pleasure) to have sex for the procreation of children. This generally true. However, there are people who forego procreation in favor of sexual pleasures alone. This line of argument becomes more contentious when one argues that love covers all questions of morality. Thus, many orthodox religions are coming to grips with questions relating divorces, common-law marriages, and same sex marriages. Regards, John R.
