>... Even if you > can't have the courage to sign your own posts, I am glad that >someone > is representing the TMmovement here. I do like seeing the TM-tru- > believer view advocated here if only by you and Feste37 in snipe.
Dear Feste and Nabby, whoever you are; Thank you for the replies to this line of thot, they are beautiful. I appreciate what you are saying and that you are satisfied with the direction of the statua quo TMmovement. With Best Regards, -Doug in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I find it amusing that you refer to me as a "TM true believer," which > is not my position at all, but I do agree with Nabuloss that this is a > drama of your own making. I don't see large numbers of meditators > desperate for a reconciliation with the movement, and I doubt whether > there are many people who really want to go to the domes and are > excluded from them. Those who like the movement are still in it; those > who don't have left and found something else. The TM movement is not > doing anything different today from what it has always done, and it's > likely to go on doing it. People have a choice to be part of it or > not. There is no need for a "mediator," and there is no need to "save" > anything. I would say that the TM movement is doing rather well at the > moment; enrollment on campus is up, the new Student Union building > will be opening soon, and lots of people go to the domes each and > every day. I have no idea what the numbers currently are, but even if > they are lower than a thousand, that's still a very large number for a > small town of 10,000 people to achieve every day. The domes have been > in continual operation for about 28 years now (26 years, I think, for > the women's dome), which is an amazing success story. My advice to you > is to let the people who enjoy the TM movement continue to enjoy it, > rather than continually denigrating them on this board. They are good > people and they deserve better. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote: > > > > Nabby, whoever you are, that is possible as an outcome and possibly > > likely as you say it in a way. Though history shows that people do > > stick around and continue in a way after things fall apart. > > > > So, what would you advocate to save or improve the situation for your > > campus community and the domes now? The meditating "Maharishi > > Effect" dome numbers? > > > > That the old-TM meditators and sidhas again just come together with > > their `faith and belief' in Maharishi? > > > > That the meditating community should forgive the differences and > > forgive the past as things that keep people from the domes. Do you > > think that the administrative asking or just hoping for a forbearance > > within the old-meditating Fairfield community would be enough to hold > > things together for the domes? > > > > I do not hear much language of reconciliation coming out of the > > administration up there. Is much more the language of hubris, > > exclusion, abuse of power and extreme spiritual arrogance; that they > > live in a Maharishi bubble. Your being one of the few tru- believers > > willing to snipe and write publicly, even anonymously, about these > > things how would you advocate the situation to help? Even if you > > can't have the courage to sign your own posts, I am glad that someone > > is representing the TMmovement here. I do like seeing the TM-tru- > > believer view advocated here if only by you and Feste37 in snipe. > > > > Now, to save your TMmovement, could it be near time to bring in a > > reputable outside mediator, As in `mediator' that is different > > from `meditator'. T'ould first probably take even just a > > willingness on the part of the campus to even consider a process, > > of `peace and reconciliation' with its meditators as a possibility. > > Would that Maharishi even allow it now. > > > > Could you advocate or even broach this to your people on campus. May > > be old themes of petition, like in post 3811 (from six years ago)? > > > > Déjà vu, the petition: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/3811 > > > > That Gordian knot of the life of the TMmovement? Serious are you, > > young Jedi, in preserving the Maharishi Effect of the domes in FF. > > Could you advocate reconciliation that could accommodate the > > meditating community as it is in Fairfield to bolster the power of > > that effect? > > > > The spiritual high ground right now seems to be a `peace with honor' > > of the status quo of the meditating community otherwise. The > > meditating community seems quite active and healthy atop the moral > > high ground while the TMmovement by contrast has entrenched itself > > into the amoral low ground of excessive arrogance. How do you > > reconcile the two positions? > > > > -Doug in FF > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Doug writing: > > > > Watching people here with the different spiritual groups, there > > >is a > > > > shakti or a spiritual energy meter that people do run for > > > > themselves. Is the experience in FF that people have of their own > > > > experience with it. They are practiced at metering shakti. They > > > > meter it & rate it. The Shakti meter, a different meter from the > > >BS > > > > meter. > > > > > > > > FF folks after 20, 30 and 40 years of spiritual practice(s) have > > > > their own experience with it and they certainly do meter shakti > > > > accordingly. Between the different venues available they > > >definitely > > > > flow back and forth depending on the spiritual experience. It is > > >the > > > > collective FF experience & there is a lot of cultivated shakti in > > > > Fairfield. If there is not shakti in a venue then folks go on to > > >the > > > > next one here where the spiritual energy is better. > > > > > > > nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > Exactly. This is what spiritual vampires do; they move about > > >wherever > > > they can get energy. > > IF/when the Domes are shut down these people >will > > > be gonners too, very quickly. > > > > > > ..