And you know this because??? --- matrixmonitor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- Most of them are on the wrong track of > evolution. > > > In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I find it amusing that you refer to me as a "TM > true believer," > which > > is not my position at all, but I do agree with > Nabuloss that this > is a > > drama of your own making. I don't see large > numbers of meditators > > desperate for a reconciliation with the movement, > and I doubt > whether > > there are many people who really want to go to the > domes and are > > excluded from them. Those who like the movement > are still in it; > those > > who don't have left and found something else. The > TM movement is not > > doing anything different today from what it has > always done, and > it's > > likely to go on doing it. People have a choice to > be part of it or > > not. There is no need for a "mediator," and there > is no need > to "save" > > anything. I would say that the TM movement is > doing rather well at > the > > moment; enrollment on campus is up, the new > Student Union building > > will be opening soon, and lots of people go to the > domes each and > > every day. I have no idea what the numbers > currently are, but even > if > > they are lower than a thousand, that's still a > very large number > for a > > small town of 10,000 people to achieve every day. > The domes have > been > > in continual operation for about 28 years now (26 > years, I think, > for > > the women's dome), which is an amazing success > story. My advice to > you > > is to let the people who enjoy the TM movement > continue to enjoy it, > > rather than continually denigrating them on this > board. They are > good > > people and they deserve better. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "dhamiltony2k5" > > <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote: > > > > > > Nabby, whoever you are, that is possible as an > outcome and > possibly > > > likely as you say it in a way. Though history > shows that people > do > > > stick around and continue in a way after things > fall apart. > > > > > > So, what would you advocate to save or improve > the situation for > your > > > campus community and the domes now? The > meditating "Maharishi > > > Effect" dome numbers? > > > > > > That the old-TM meditators and sidhas again just > come together > with > > > their `faith and belief' in Maharishi? > > > > > > That the meditating community should forgive the > differences and > > > forgive the past as things that keep people from > the domes. Do > you > > > think that the administrative asking or just > hoping for a > forbearance > > > within the old-meditating Fairfield community > would be enough to > hold > > > things together for the domes? > > > > > > I do not hear much language of reconciliation > coming out of the > > > administration up there. Is much more the > language of hubris, > > > exclusion, abuse of power and extreme spiritual > arrogance; that > they > > > live in a Maharishi bubble. Your being one of > the few tru- > believers > > > willing to snipe and write publicly, even > anonymously, about > these > > > things how would you advocate the situation to > help? Even if you > > > can't have the courage to sign your own posts, I > am glad that > someone > > > is representing the TMmovement here. I do like > seeing the TM-tru- > > > believer view advocated here if only by you and > Feste37 in snipe. > > > > > > Now, to save your TMmovement, could it be near > time to bring in a > > > reputable outside mediator, As in `mediator' > that is different > > > from `meditator'. T'ould first probably take > even just a > > > willingness on the part of the campus to even > consider a process, > > > of `peace and reconciliation' with its > meditators as a > possibility. > > > Would that Maharishi even allow it now. > > > > > > Could you advocate or even broach this to your > people on campus. > May > > > be old themes of petition, like in post 3811 > (from six years ago)? > > > > > > Déjà vu, the petition: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/3811 > > > > > > That Gordian knot of the life of the TMmovement? > Serious are > you, > > > young Jedi, in preserving the Maharishi Effect > of the domes in > FF. > > > Could you advocate reconciliation that could > accommodate the > > > meditating community as it is in Fairfield to > bolster the power > of > > > that effect? > > > > > > The spiritual high ground right now seems to be > a `peace with > honor' > > > of the status quo of the meditating community > otherwise. The > > > meditating community seems quite active and > healthy atop the > moral > > > high ground while the TMmovement by contrast has > entrenched > itself > > > into the amoral low ground of excessive > arrogance. How do you > > > reconcile the two positions? > > > > > > -Doug in FF > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug writing: > > > > > Watching people here with the different > spiritual groups, > there > > > >is a > > > > > shakti or a spiritual energy meter that > people do run for > > > > > themselves. Is the experience in FF that > people have of their > own > > > > > experience with it. They are practiced at > metering shakti. > They > > > > > meter it & rate it. The Shakti meter, a > different meter from > the > > > >BS > > > > > meter. > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
