--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Jan 14, 2008, at 7:11 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
> 
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:23 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > > From what I have seen Vaj write, it looks like he is
> > > > > familiar with this "stuff."
> > > <snip>
> > > >
> > > > Also check out:
> > > >
> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism
> > > >
> > > > It's a very good synopsis.
> > >
> > > Quoting Vaj from an earlier post:
> > >
> > > What are you proposing Off, that the
> > > > observer's consciousness emits some sort of signal that 
travels
> > > > back through time and then tells the measuring apparatus what
> > > > it's supposed to indicate when the particle interacts with the
> > > > machine? What about when there is no human observer and some
> > > > automatic recording machine does the "observing"? Does the
> > > > machine travel back through time?
> > > >
> > > > I think you've merely uncritically accepted a good number of 
false
> > > > propositions which were sold to you by a pseudo-master and his
> > > > physicists-marketeers.
> > >
> > > See:
> > >
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheeler's_delayed_choice_experiment
> >
> > I don't know if Vaj knows that the delayed choice experiment 
does  
> > not require a human participant.  However,  we have to be 
careful  
> > when drawing conclusions like "travel back in time" from his  
> > experiment and other related experiments as "time travel" is  
not  
> > necessary to develop a theory to account for the experiment.   
> > Interesting stuff though.  Shows how elusive answers can be when 
you  
> > are out there on the cutting edge.
> 
> Be careful of "Judy's Golem", a peculiar form of strawman fallacy  
> where our Dear Editor distorts or misrepresents an others 
thoughts,  
> and then based on that distorted "monster" attempts to show who 
that  
> misleading idea is wrong. The ideas she attributes to me have 
actually  
> zero to do with my personal thoughts and a certainly not even close 
to  
> what I was thinking of. Hang around here long enough and you'll 
see  
> this often enough. It's just a common technique she uses to lure  
> people into arguments. When you ignore her, she'll try to beg 
others  
> on to further entice with her latest Golem.

<snicker>

Vaj's mantra when he's caught at it.


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