--- "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > Yeah, well, if it's your POV that TM is > hypnosis, > > > > like I said, forget it, whether you're > pitching > > > > it or not. Our understandings of what TM is > are > > > > just too different to have a meaningful > discussion. > > > > > > As I said, I don't know enough about either > state to make clear > > > distinctions. I can't even clearly define > hypnosis or meditative > > > state Judy. I was speaking about my perspective > on the language > > > used. But if the discussion isn't working for > you, no harm no foul. > > > > Let me put it this way: If you can't *rule > > out* hypnosis just as a matter of common sense, > > we understand TM too differently to have a > > meaningful discussion. > > > It boggles my mind that the distinction between > Transcendental > Meditation and hypnosis doesn't seem to be at least > intellectually > clear to so many who have been immersed for so long > in the TM > description. But to me, it's another symptom of how > the pathetic state > of the 'dignity' and representational 'example' of > the TMO has > resulted in its losing its credibility and respect.
It is also an example of the intellectual dishonesty of the TMO. The TMO is not interested or even remotely motivated to seek "Truth." It is interested in perpetuating a body of techniques that claim to allow you to experience the "Truth" even though most people don't have such results from these techniques. The TMO is a cult. It has decided, a priori, that it is right and anyone else is wrong. By the way, being trained to teach TM and hypnosis and having experienced both here's my take: TM and hypnosis are initially identical. The difference with TM though is the continued quieting of the mind's activity and if that particular mind is capable of it, the absolute quieting of the mind and the shift of attention to the transcendent or, more correctly, pure consciousness. You can't and don't transcend with hypnosis because that is not its intent. TM and hypnosis are just two different "things". > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
