--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I certainly do. That's why Vaj's question was a non > sequitur; it's not a point of contention. > > Key words: "Before they start meditating." > > As I said to Peter, you can't "suggest" something > (a) that you can't describe adequately and (b) > that is (for most people) an entirely novel > experience (i.e., transcendence). The subject has > to have some frame of reference for what is being > suggested, but transcendence is the *absence* of > any sources of reference at all, by definition. > > Certain suggestions are made during the checking > procedure for specific experiences for which there > *is* a frame of reference ("some quietness, some > silence," e.g.), but once past those, the > meditator is on his or her own. OK. I was getting the impression that there was a disagreement on the use of suggestions because there was not a clear distinction made between getting ready to meditate and meditating. It looks like Vaj and Angela had the same impression as I did. I agree that once meditation begins the meditator is on his or her own and I make no claims about what meditation "is." >