--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I certainly do. That's why Vaj's question was a non
> sequitur; it's not a point of contention.
>
> Key words: "Before they start meditating."
>
> As I said to Peter, you can't "suggest" something
> (a) that you can't describe adequately and (b)
> that is (for most people) an entirely novel
> experience (i.e., transcendence). The subject has
> to have some frame of reference for what is being
> suggested, but transcendence is the *absence* of
> any sources of reference at all, by definition.
>
> Certain suggestions are made during the checking
> procedure for specific experiences for which there
> *is* a frame of reference ("some quietness, some
> silence," e.g.), but once past those, the
> meditator is on his or her own.
OK. I was getting the impression that there was a disagreement on the
use of suggestions because there was not a clear distinction made
between getting ready to meditate and meditating. It looks like Vaj
and Angela had the same impression as I did. I agree that once
meditation begins the meditator is on his or her own and I make no
claims about what meditation "is."
>
