Not exactly. Briefly now, more when I have time. The Church doesn't try, the Church succeeds in ways you wouldn't believe. I remember hearing once that the really enlightened masters are people you never hear about. They are in the caves in the Himalayas and they have maybe one thought, and that thought, that one thought, is beneficial for the evolution of humanity. Sounds right to me. And I remember thinking at the time, not only mountain caves, but there are, for example, the sisters of Sister Angela right in that Carmelite monastery in the good old US of
Christ IS Awakening Itself. But the Church has a whole arsenal of excellent techniques that we can call techniques because they work. Humility as a practice for instance--a practice in the sense that meditation is a practice and in the sense that mindfullness is a practice, a practice in the Chinese sense of the word practice. Trying to get people to be more Christlike, however, does not sound like an effective technique to me, though it works as a conceptual tool to describe all techniques. a --- Patrick Gillam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I need something clarified: I got into this thread > by saying > Christianity does not recognize, let alone promote, > self- > realization. Angela and John, you seem to be saying > the > church tries to get people to be more like Christ, > and in > that, it's promoting Awakening in the vedic sense, > because > Christ was really an awakened being. Is that a fair > understanding of your position? Maybe you could talk > about that a little bit. > > More questions below. > > >--- Angela Mailander wrote: > > > > Your assumptions are that the Vatican doesn't know > or > > doesn't care about a possible 1% effect. > > Angela, you have me at a disadvantage. I don't see > how > I'm assuming the Vatican doesn't know or care about > a > 1% Effect. If you care to elaborate, I'd enjoy > reading your > insights. > > > I'm sure > > they know about it. They have reasons for keeping > > techniques a secret. > > If you care to surmise what those reasons may be, > I'd > enjoy reading those thoughts, too. > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
