--- Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>snip > > Dear Peter, > > You have done such a good job of explaining > this "I" no "I" > thing frontwards, backwards, sideways and inside > out. Even though > many are not experiencing this state of mind or no > mind right now, I > think that with a little quiet contemplation most > can at least know > abstractly what it is that you are talking about. > The problem is > that the idea of a driver of action is just kind of > swept under the > rug of God/Nature/Mystery which says to me that > although there is a > real shift of awareness being experienced there is > some > understanding that is missing. Until this > understanding is opened up > some I don't think that the questions of > responsibility in action > by "enlightened" individuals can be resolved to any > statisfaction. Agreed > > This idea starts to sound like there is a great and > powerful Oz > making all things happen from behind the curtain and > any attempts to > understand it are just the mind trying to keep > itself busy so you > better just forget it. I'm not trying to imply that. > > Is it possible that, the experience of there being > no "I" to intend > or not to intend is based on the recognition that > ego as has always > been identified with as "I" is actually not Self > therefore "I" do > not exist. Maybe a more accurate statement would be: > therefore "I" > is not the ego. No. "I" and the ego are one and the same. Rick, let me ask you a question. Why this powerful protest about the "I" disappearing? I contend that it is because of the the "I"/consciousness confound. But why do you stuggle with it? > > Didn't you say in an earlier post that your teacher > Ravi Shankar > (spl?) mentioned something about this experience of > no "I" being > something that could occur in the process of growth > towards > realization. Did he elaborate on that at all? No, he did not elaborate. I started thinking about the ego identifying with everything and therefore having no separation and did not follow-up with anymore questions. > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/