On Apr 29, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Bhairitu wrote: > You're doing the same thing as Judy reviewing "Apocalypto". She > commented without ever seeing the movie and you've never done > astrology. Your ignorance is showing as there are MANY schools and > systems of jyotish, not just one. You will often get errors from the > novices who for some reason after having a couple of workshops on the > subject and set up shop charging for readings while many Indian > astrologers went for years just practicing for nothing to craft their > skills before hanging out a shingle. > > A wiser person would have said "I haven't studied jyotish so I can't > comment on its veracity." Likewise I haven't studied Buddhist > Tantra so > can't comment on its veracity.
Interestingly, Jyotish figures prominently in several Buddhist anuttara tantras, like the Great Cycle of Time tantra (kalachakra- tantra). Buddhahood is likened to the mastery of various cycles of time, inner, outer and secret. You see the same thing in Hindu agamas like the Shiva-swarodaya. When yogis of these systems are really finely attuned to kosmos, they can even tell the rising sign of a person by feeling their normal breathing patterns. Swami Rama had this siddhi. But ultimately, they go beyond time--and can see the cycles in everything from the breath to the changing landscape. It's pretty hard to be a Buddha and not be omniscient, and mastering time is a central point of unimpeded omniscience.
