I always think of God as the visible and invisible.  I think of God as Pure 
Consciousness or Divine Intelligence.   Which for me means that the 
intelligence which determines the sky, the clouds, the earth, the planets, that 
which keeps all of this functioning to me that is what I call God.   

Then when you look at the Oceans the rivers the wind the air the sun all of 
these thing may have principals of nature that control them.  For me this to I 
call God.   I am not negating Jesus or Krishna, I am saying that God can be 
even more simple than that.   So to appreciate God in nature this is a good 
thing, I think.

I once heard a story of a man who was visiting Finland, there he was with 
Atheist In Finland you get a tax break if you are atheist.   So the atheist 
like to sit in nature and grill Salmon over a fire and sausage drink beer and 
just feel the beauty of the environment.  

The man laughed. He thought how Holy and atheist these people are.  

curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we as humans like to look 
for patterns and extrapolate our 
> intelligence onto nature.

Agreed.

 Whether we do it through a belief in God 
> or in science, the motive is the same, and either belief remains 
> full of holes when viewed superficially.

Here I disagree.  Science is not a belief like the belief in God.  It
is a method used to help improve the odds of our beliefs being
accurate.  The method is a work around for our cognitive flaws.  So I
see the motives in holding a God belief and using the methods of
science to be almost opposite.  

And most God believers get scientific real fast in the hospital
emergency room.  The God belief is the last resort after every avenue
of science is pursued. (or until your health insurance cuts you off)



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > > His father had promised him a car for his birthday.  Dad was 
> nowhere
> > in sight.   His mother gave him 5.00$, yet what he had received 
> was a
> > grace from God that on his birthday the sun and the birds awakened
> > him, the sweet smells of the divine filled the air and he knew 
> without
> > a doubt that there had to be a God and that God just gave him the
> > greatest birthday gift ever.................
> > 
> > 
> > So following this weather based theology we can assume that God
> > absolutely hates China and dropped a huge earthquake on it's ass 
> and
> > despises Burma and sent them a nasty cyclone?
> > 
> > It seems a little grandiose and narcissistic to me to attribute a
> > day's weather to God's intention to give him a bitch'n birthday 
> while
> > his same power over the weather is causing untold misery and death 
> in
> > other places.
> 
> 
> I think we as humans like to look for patterns and extrapolate our 
> intelligence onto nature. Whether we do it through a belief in God 
> or in science, the motive is the same, and either belief remains 
> full of holes when viewed superficially.
>



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