--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 7, 2008, at 11:52 AM, authfriend wrote:
[quoting a New Republic commenter:] > > > Did Clinton lose because of sexism? No more than Obama won > > because of race. Did the ugly sexism on display in the > > mainstream and "progressive" media, tolerated and even > > sometimes indulged in by the male candidates (not simply > > Obama) and their campaign supporters and surrogates reveal > > the ugly depths of misogyny in the political as well as > > broader culture? Including in the "progressive" movement. > > You mean like the "Iron my shirt!" episode that Hillary's > campaign apparently helped organize? You made that claim before, Sal, and I pointed out that it had been thoroughly debunked. Why are you raising it again as if it were legitimate? Nobody who's at all serious disagrees that there was quite extraordinary sexism and misogyny on display in the media and among Obama's supporters. > If anything, she started out with many huge advantages, one > of which was that the media were willing to cut her a break > time and again, Oh, please, Sal. That's just up-is-downism. which they almost certainly would not have > done for anyone else. Does "tears in NH" mean anything to > you, Judy? How long do you think Obama would have lasted > had he pulled something like that? If anyone played the > gender card, it was Hillary, again and again. Sal, that's Camille Paglia hooey. There were no "tears in New Hampshire." Her voice got a little unsteady when she was talking about how much pulling the country back from the brink meant to her. It happens to men as well when they're talking about something they feel very strongly about. And she didn't "pull" it. Her feelings got away from her. That's quite obvious if you watch the tape. And Hillary didn't "play the gender card" any more than Obama "played the race card," of course. They were both entitled to emphasize the historic nature of their respective candidacies. Hillary didn't even do any complaining about sexism until the middle of May, for pete's sake, in one newspaper interview, after it had been going on for months. You really, really need to learn to stop swallowing propaganda.
