--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 6, 2008, at 7:53 PM, authfriend wrote: > > >> I also heard that when MMY was developing the yoga asanas > >> course, he had invited several hatha yoga specialists over > >> from India. They talked and MMY came up with the super > >> gentle approach that was contrary to all they had believed. > >> They disagreed with MMY's ultra gentle approach. HOwever, > >> after they discussed it further, MMY refused to budge, and > >> then they tried out his approach. Word was that they were > >> enthusiastic about the new way of doing asanas. This is > >> what I heard from a TM teacher (TB) who had taken the course, > >> so ti may not be valid info. > > > > It's horribly frustrating not to be able to remember > > the bit of theoretical background I heard, also from > > a TB TM teacher/Purusha. What I *do* remember is that > > it was one of those MMY explanations that pretty much > > turned the traditional notions on their heads and > > that were like a lightbulb going off when you heard > > them because they made so much sense. > > While much of the Maheshian spin on various ideas--what to him, > were probably just business propositions--were often > provocatively alluring in their descriptions, but you just never > knew what he was up to (especially if you were "thought-reformed" > not to gain more perspective). Like that song with a great 'hook', > ole M' sure knew how to grab his audience of pre-programmed > adorers.
Yeah, that audience wouldn't include me. As you know, Vaj, I thought a lot of what he had to say was crap. The problem thus > becomes was it the perfectly spun spirito-marketing spiel that > got you or was it some thing really, honestly worth your > while ...and of course... the exorbitant fee? Never took the course, so I couldn't tell you. > > Wait, this just came back to me: It had a lot to do > > with Self-referral, finding Self-referral in the body. > > You were to put the attention on the muscles (and > > joints?) that were being used for a particular asana, > > and this would make some kind of mind-body connection > > that would facilitate Self-referral. Something along > > those lines. If the muscles were being stretched, that > > would inhibit making the connection, just as > > concentration on the mantra inhibits transcending. > > From someone who is from the Nath tradition and access to > the core of that (Ha- Tha-: the Sun-Moon) tradition(s) ROTFL!! I can tell you authentic > traditions do still exist, and also that this type of gross- > oversimplification is egregious in it's distortion of working > tradition. Vaj, you're incapable of reading what I write here; why on earth should I trust your understanding of ancient esoteric traditions? I said (see above), "Something along those lines." I went on to say (snipped by you, without any indication), "There was more to it, but I think that may have been the basis." And I acknowledged from the start that my memory of the brief, informal outline I heard (13 years ago) was hazy. Yet despite all those caveats, you've taken what I wrote to be a complete and authoritative description of MMY's teaching on hatha yoga and claim it's "a gross oversimplification." You repeatedly make yourself ridiculous, Vaj. This is a part of it, but there is depth here I have yet to > see in TM praxis--and I really doubt we ever will. >