--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Aug 6, 2008, at 7:53 PM, authfriend wrote:
> 
> >> I also heard that when MMY was developing the yoga asanas
> >> course, he had invited several hatha yoga specialists over
> >> from India.  They talked and MMY came up with the super
> >> gentle approach that was contrary to all they had believed.
> >> They disagreed with MMY's ultra gentle approach.  HOwever,
> >> after they discussed it further, MMY refused to budge, and
> >> then they tried out his approach.  Word was that they were
> >> enthusiastic about the new way of doing asanas.  This is
> >> what I heard from a TM teacher (TB) who had taken the course,
> >> so ti may not be valid info.
> >
> > It's horribly frustrating not to be able to remember
> > the bit of theoretical background I heard, also from
> > a TB TM teacher/Purusha. What I *do* remember is that
> > it was one of those MMY explanations that pretty much
> > turned the traditional notions on their heads and
> > that were like a lightbulb going off when you heard
> > them because they made so much sense.
> 
> While much of the Maheshian spin on various ideas--what to him,
> were probably just business propositions--were often
> provocatively alluring in their descriptions, but you just never
> knew what he was up to (especially if you were "thought-reformed"
> not to gain more  perspective). Like that song with a great 'hook',
> ole M' sure knew how to grab his audience of pre-programmed 
> adorers.

Yeah, that audience wouldn't include me. As you
know, Vaj, I thought a lot of what he had to say
was crap.

 The problem thus  
> becomes was it the perfectly spun spirito-marketing spiel that
> got you or was it some thing really, honestly worth your 
> while ...and of course... the exorbitant fee?

Never took the course, so I couldn't tell you.

> > Wait, this just came back to me: It had a lot to do
> > with Self-referral, finding Self-referral in the body.
> > You were to put the attention on the muscles (and
> > joints?) that were being used for a particular asana,
> > and this would make some kind of mind-body connection
> > that would facilitate Self-referral. Something along
> > those lines. If the muscles were being stretched, that
> > would inhibit making the connection, just as
> > concentration on the mantra inhibits transcending.
> 
>  From someone who is from the Nath tradition and access to
> the core of that (Ha- Tha-: the Sun-Moon) tradition(s)

ROTFL!!

 I can tell you authentic  
> traditions do still exist, and also that this type of gross- 
> oversimplification is egregious in it's distortion of working  
> tradition.

Vaj, you're incapable of reading what I write here;
why on earth should I trust your understanding of
ancient esoteric traditions?

I said (see above), "Something along those lines."
I went on to say (snipped by you, without any
indication), "There was more to it, but I think that
may have been the basis." And I acknowledged from the
start that my memory of the brief, informal outline I
heard (13 years ago) was hazy.

Yet despite all those caveats, you've taken what I
wrote to be a complete and authoritative description
of MMY's teaching on hatha yoga and claim it's "a
gross oversimplification."

You repeatedly make yourself ridiculous, Vaj.






 This is a part of it, but there is depth here I have yet to  
> see in TM praxis--and I really doubt we ever will.
>


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