--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > by "definition," that is their self.
#### Truth can't be obtained by definitions. Words are defined according to a world view that already presupposes a certain truth. That is why I said (below) that your definition started with an understanding that "self" exists. Then I said that you have this understanding because it is your experience. I followed this with an example of someone whose experience differs from yours, who would not find the world view that gave rise to your definition to hold true for her. Your follow-up points (below) on use of intellect and on the need for definitions, don't seem to have anything to do with this. #### > > > > *** > > By what "definition"? This presumes self to begin with. In other > > words, someone experiencing a sense of self has uttered these words. > > Contrast this with comments from Suzanne Segal such as: The mothering > > function is happening. It is happening better than if there were a > > mother. But there is no mother. She was referring to herself in > > relation to her child. From an outsider's perspective, "she" was > > obviously present, but she experienced no sense of a self. > > Uttering words involves use of "definitions" unless you are claiming > that someone who is enlightened has no intellect to help guide the > chooice of words to utter. > > Notice I didn't say that the intellect guided their Self or something, > though I suppose that this distinction isn't an issue at some point... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
