Most people, or at least many, use my definition, consciously or unconsciously, I think. It's also similar to the "Working definition" found in various psychology textbooks. Just because a given person doesn't usethat definition, doesn't mean the definition isn't in common use.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > by "definition," that is their self. > > #### > Truth can't be obtained by definitions. Words are defined according > to a world view that already presupposes a certain truth. That is > why I said (below) that your definition started with an > understanding that "self" exists. Then I said that you have this > understanding because it is your experience. I followed this with an > example of someone whose experience differs from yours, who would > not find the world view that gave rise to your definition to hold > true for her. > > Your follow-up points (below) on use of intellect and on the need > for definitions, don't seem to have anything to do with this. > #### > > > > > > > *** > > > By what "definition"? This presumes self to begin with. In other > > > words, someone experiencing a sense of self has uttered these > words. > > > Contrast this with comments from Suzanne Segal such as: The > mothering > > > function is happening. It is happening better than if there were > a > > > mother. But there is no mother. She was referring to herself in > > > relation to her child. From an outsider's perspective, "she" was > > > obviously present, but she experienced no sense of a self. > > > > Uttering words involves use of "definitions" unless you are > claiming > > that someone who is enlightened has no intellect to help guide the > > chooice of words to utter. > > > > Notice I didn't say that the intellect guided their Self or > something, > > though I suppose that this distinction isn't an issue at some > point... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
