Exactly and that is why you are using long mantras.  ;-)

The guru mantra is a mantra that has been passed down in a tradition.  
It is the key mantra (also referred to as a "beej mantra" though in a 
different sense than beej aksharas) that is used to enliven other 
mantras.  They are very powerful and given only to disciples.  The 
initiation of becoming a disciple (shishya) is the passage of the guru 
mantra.  And in my tradition we will make anyone a disciple who is 
sincere and genuine in their desire.

Many published mantras are "tribal mantras" and included in books 
because they are public and the author, if a disciple, can't reveal the 
mantras his guru gave him.

Llundrub wrote:

>I have never had a guru.
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: Bhairitu 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:42 AM
>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
>
>
>Llundrub wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
>>
>>
>>on 6/20/05 10:05 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>
>> Yes, just OM! 
>>
>>
>>So I wonder whether meditating on OM by itself might make one a recluse while 
>>meditating with a longer mantra that contains OM might not, as my friend 
>>suggested in the comment I posted here yesterday. 
>>
>>I have a basic problem with these generalizations based on heresay.  
>>
>>For the basic reason that when I used to do TM at MIU I wanted to be a 
>>recluse and escape from all the cares of the world, and that was using my 
>>non-OM mantra. So I can only imagine if what Maharishi says about OM is true 
>>that I would have probably wanted to run screaming from samsara. Moreover, my 
>>desires had no support at MIU and I was miserable.   
>>
>>So I ask, what is the real difference?  
>>
>>My experience, which I consider to be the only important thing in the world, 
>>confirms for me that the mantras which I have used since TM, most of which 
>>contain OM as a part are extremely effective in very vaulable ways, and they 
>>have only bettered my life.  
>>
>>When I used to do Mahalakshmi Sadhana I used two main mantras which together 
>>are:
>>Om shrim klim mahalakshmiyei namaha Om shrim hrim shrim kamala kamalalayei 
>>praseed praseed shrim hrim shrim om mahalakshmiyei namaha.  Many Oms, I had 
>>much benefit from doing this 250,000 times. 
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
><snip>
>If you have a "guru mantra" then the amount of repetitions required to 
>attain mantra siddhi are significantly reduced.  It's also interesting 
>to note that the "secret" mantras are often much shorter. :)
>
>  
>



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