I assume you are satirizing the loony logic of some of our other astute posters here.
Ayers is a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Does this imply that all graduate of U of I should be banned from being president because of the Ayers connections? You went to an University whose name sake, president and chief scientists are "nuts" -- or at least say very nutty things. And the goofiest thing -- you "flew" everyday at this so called university. Should people who deal with you on insurance matters be told the truth about you! I went to the University of California. Angela Davis taught there. Herbert Marcuse taught there. both avowed Communists and radicals. Eldridge Cleaver, Tim Leary, Abbie Hoffman, Tom Hayden, Jerry Rubin all spoke there. Students spoke at rally's and advocated open revolution. It was the hotbed and leading wave of student and natioanl protests, People took drugs there. Martin Luther King spoke there and he advocated strong resistance against the government. Heck, Ronald Reagan was governor of an head of the Board of Regents when I was there -- when no attacking we students from his helicopters filled with tear gas -- and apparently he caused the meltdown of the US economy. Bobby and Jack Kennedy spoke there -- and they palled around with mobsters, and "started" the (serious part of) the war in Vietnam -- which became an immoral and political/economic disaster. Should I and all other graduates of UC be banned from being president because of the "Davis/Marcuse/Revolutionaries/Drug/Reagan/mobster/Kennedy" connection? (And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to society's problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with Peter and were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should ban Peter from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we ban all of us for our connections to Peter?) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At least someone in this campaign has some balls. > > This to me is one of the main reasons this man cannot be > president...and the ties to William Ayers run deep. > > Talk about vetting. Who the hell vetted Obama during the primaries > about this? > > What I'd like to know is: how many Americans are actually aware of > the William Ayers connection? Is it a large or small percentage? > And of those that know about it, how many will NOT vote for Obama > because of it? If it's a large percentage, you can bet that a whole > lotta money will be spent informing the public of the connection. > > And please don't retort with: Oh, having a connection with William > Ayers is something that mainstream people in Chicago have been doing > for years; why Mayor Daley has worked with Ayers. > > Well, two wrongs don't make a right. And, besides, Barky is supposed > to be different; he's supposed to be "change we can believe it"...a > leader who doesn't do things just because everyone else in the crowd > is doing it. > > If Barky is just going to be one more run-of-the-mill politicians, > why do we need him? What we need is a REAL leader; someone who would > have had the courage and fortitude to say: I don't care how many of > my fellow Chicago politicians approve of and work with this self- > admitted terrorist, I won't have anything to do with him. > > But, no, Barky is NOT a unique thinker, he is NOT someone who will go > AGAINST the crowd; he is a go-with-the-flow kind of guy who will, > obviously, give in to peer-group pressure. > > This is not a leader; this is a follower. > > We need a leader as president. > > As Palin says: "This is not a man who sees America as you see America > and as I see America." Barky is, simply, unacceptable to be president. > > ------------------- > > Palin says Obama 'palling around' with terrorists > > Oct 4 03:32 PM US/Eastern > By JIM KUHNHENN > Associated Press Writer > > 'America Needs to Know This' > > > ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP) - Republican vice presidential candidate > Sarah Palin on Saturday accused Democrat Barack Obama of "palling > around with terrorists" because of his association with a former > 1960s radical, stepping up the campaign's effort to portray Obama as > unacceptable to American voters. > > Palin's reference was to Bill Ayers, one of the founders of the group > the Weather Underground. Its members took credit for bombings, > including nonfatal explosions at the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol, > during the tumultuous Vietnam War era four decades ago. Obama, who > was a child when the group was active, served on a charity board with > Ayers several years ago and has denounced his radical views and > activities. > > The Republican campaign, falling behind Obama in polls, plans to make > attacks on Obama's character a centerpiece of presidential candidate > John McCain's message with a month remaining before Election Day. > > Palin told a group of donors at a private airport, "Our opponent ... > is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect, > imperfect enough, that he's palling around with terrorists who would > target their own country." She also said, "This is not a man who sees > America as you see America and as I see America." > > Palin, Alaska's governor, said that donors on a greeting line had > encouraged her and McCain to get tougher on Obama. She said an aide > then advised her, "Sarah, the gloves are off, the heels are on, go > get to them." > > The escalated effort to attack Obama's character dovetails with TV > ads by outside groups questioning Obama's ties to Ayers, convicted > former Obama fundraiser Antoin "Tony" Rezko and Obama's former > pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. > > Ayers is a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago. He and > Obama live in Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood and served together on > the board of the Woods Fund, a Chicago-based charity that develops > community groups to help the poor. Obama left the board in December > 2002. > > Obama was the first chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a > school-reform group of which Ayers was a founder. Ayers also held a > meet-the-candidate event at his home for Obama when Obama first ran > for office in the mid-1990s. > > Palin cited a New York Times story published Saturday that detailed > Obama's relationship with Ayers. In an interview with CBS News > earlier in the week, Palin didn't name any newspapers or magazines > that had shaped her view of the world. > > Summing up its findings, the Times wrote: "A review of records of the > schools project and interviews with a dozen people who know both men, > suggest that Mr. Obama, 47, has played down his contacts with Mr. > Ayers, 63. But the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has > Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions > of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called 'somebody who engaged in detestable > acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.'" > > Earlier Saturday, Palin spent 35 minutes at a diner in Greenwood > Village where she met with Blue Star Moms, a support group of > families whose sons or daughters are serving in the armed forces. > Reporters were allowed in the diner for less than five minutes before > being ushered out by the campaign. > > Palin, whose 19-year-old son, Track, deployed last month as a private > with an Army combat team, was overheard at one point commiserating > with one of the mothers: "Any time I ask my son how he's doing, he > says, 'Mom, I'm in the Army now.'" > > Taking one question from reporters about competing in battleground > states, Palin repeated her wish that the campaign had not pulled out > of Michigan, a prominent state in presidential elections where Obama > leads by double-digit percentage points in recent polls. > > "As I said the other day, I would sure love to get to run to Michigan > and make sure that Michigan knows that we haven't given up there," > she said. "We care much about Michigan and every other state. I wish > there were more hours in the day so that we could travel all over > this great country and start speaking to more Americans. So, not > worried about it but just desiring more time and, you know, to put > more effort into each one of these states." >
