--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > According to factcheck.org, both Biden and Palin are guilty of > getting their facts wrong in the debate. > > Here's their full fact check on the debate: > > http://tinyurl.com/4fpela
A lot of the fact "misstatements" are due to ineadequate time to explain context and the fuller issues. Short cut statments need to be made in 90 seconds. I didn't hear anything from Biden that was applaulling or which could not have been clarified with more time. I did from palin. She made BOLD FACED lies. Winking and smiling and darn tootin it up as she did so. He is less scrupulous than a used car salesman in a navy town when the ship is in. 1) She repeated said Obama would raise taxes on regular people, the middle class. Thats a bold, bald-faced lie if you define middle class as making under 250k a year. (I know MCain defines it as making less than 5 mil -- but that speaks for itself. Obama proposes a tax cut for those making under $125 k. She was lying through her teeth -- but maybe its ok -- she winked. (which is NOT blinking mind you) 2) She said McCain would lower taxes for everyone in the audience. He is not lowering their marginal tax rate for personal income -- which her words imply. He does propose lowering business taxes and capital gains / dividends. That is NOT what her statement said or implied. (Actually, I am for a subset of that -- to eliminate double taxation. Tax income once -- either a business tax or dividend tax; and income or capital gains made from saved income -- but not both.) 3) Energy policy -- some bold faced lies about the obama energy plan -- and the merits of the mcCain plan. 4) "Having a time table for Iraq is the white flag of surrender" -- I guess Bush and the president of Iraq are raising the white flag of surrender then. There were more. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > But whats Truth got to do with it? > > > > Sarah Palin set a new standard Thursday night. I was in awe. > Speaking > > right into the camera, smiling, winking, and gosh darn it blatently > > lying to the American people and world. > > > > With her skills she could easily be a corporate PR heavy pulling in > > over a mil a year. Lying skills like that are rare and well-prized. > > > > And she is soo much better a liar than Bush. With Bush -- its so > clear > > he is lying. Palin adds some bubbly sweet mystery to it all. > > > > It does bring up the moral question: is it a lie if you say it but > > don't know its a lie? I think that is the case with Sarah. She can > be > > (and not act) so sincere because she is just puking out what > handlers > > have fed her. I don't think she knows she's lying. Does that make it > > OK? Or worse -- that she is so uninformed she can't distinguish a > > cooked-up lies from sanity and truth? > > > > (But she pukes in such a cute way -- reminds me of some gf's as I > held > > their head over he toilet bowl -- she on her knees. Very endearing > and > > cute. Except when she hit my shoes. ) > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > I was talking to a friend today about debates and I mentioned > the > > > gaffe > > > > of Biden saying FDR on TV in 1929 (yes I was defending media > > > treatment > > > > of Palin Shemp, as I often do --- up to a point.) > > > > > > > > My friend pointed out that FD Roosevelt was Governer of New > York in > > > > 1929, and I found out that New York city did have regular TV > > > > broadcasting from 1928 on, and it is HIGHLY LIKELY that in the > city > > > > where the stock exchange crashed that the Governere would go on > > > radio > > > > and TV to make speeches about it. > > > > > > > > Sounds like Coulter is talking through her ass again, and Shemp > is > > > > swallowing it hook line a sinker. > > > > > > > > Looks like Biden was right. > > > > > > > > OffWorld > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, it's correct that there were "regular" broadcasts of what > could > > > pass as "television" in New York from 1928 on but only in the > most > > > limited sense of both words. They were one-inch screens and the > > > whole enterprise was of an experimental nature. And the > broadcasts > > > were local, not state-wide. > > > > > > There is no evidence nor any documentation that FDR made any TV > > > broadcasts (or radio broadcasts for that matter) in 1928 or 1929. > > > > > > However, an early kinetoscope of one of FDR's TV broadcasts has > been > > > making the rounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR3ilZAWHw > > > > > >
