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> 
> Good point. However if you made old, unregistered guns illegal, to  
> avoid becoming criminals a huge number of people would turn theirs  
> in. There is also money: gun buy outs.

We tried that in DC and the police bought a bunch of broken guns. 
They kept the working ones.

 And then you just prosecute  
> the gun nuts as they are exposed. Give lucrative rewards to turn gun  
> nuts in. And so on. I agree with what you're describing, but if  
> they're unwilling to disarm, we'll find a way to get them. But not  
> all of them. Eventually they'll probably be able to scan your house  
> from space and know just where the guns are and what kinds.

I don't believe that "gun nuts" which I would call collectors are
doing the crimes.

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> 
> Precisely. When you look at the consciousness of a typical gun nut

This seems completely bogus as a claim on face value.  How could
anyone know such a thing about a large diverse group of people?

 in  > terms of the various scales of development, they score quite
low when > compared to the center of gravity of collective evolution
in the US  
> (which is moving towards the Green meme, Relativistic-personalistic— 
> communitarian/egalitarian collective consciousness). Gun hoarding  
> habits are more Red and Blue meme themes (Egocentric-exploitive
power > gods/dominionist collective consciousness and
Absolutistic-obedience > mythic order—purposeful/authoritarian
collective consciousness).

Not the ones I know.  They tend to be a bit geeky but most I know are
highly intelligent and very responsible.   

> 
> > I find all of this rather sad to read, because of
> > the *assumption* on the part of FFL posters that
> > life is a dangerous thing, and that they have to
> > worry about carrying some weapon to protect them-
> > selves with as they walk to their cars. I don't.
> > I haven't had to for six years, in France or here
> > in Spain.

You may just have enough money to live in a better, less crime ridden
neighborhood.  You don't live in the hood.  But every country has
areas like the one I live in in their big cities.

> 
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> (and he did live a high-crime neighborhood) he realized he was  
> helping to create his own environment based on the vibes he put out.  
> So he decided to change the way he saw things.
> 
> As soon as he did, the environment he lived in changed. Kids coming  
> up to him to establish dominance, muggings and threats stopped. He  
> remains weapon free to this day. And all he did was change the way he  
> chose to see things.
> 
> That might not work for everyone, but it did work for him.

Crime is a low probability shot even in a dangerous area, especially
for a man and even better if the guy who is in shape. (Women have more
difficulty.)  So you can change your POV, but that has nothing to do
with what goes down if your number comes up.  I don't spend a lot of
time worrying about where I live because I am prepared,keep my eyes
open and live according to simple safety routines.
> 
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> 
> I find the stats on Japan very interesting as you can see a country  
> where an internal and external connection between and inner sense of  
> orderliness and an outer sense of orderliness is directly  
> correlatable. I also remember hearing that Asian immigrants have the  
> lowest levels of criminal activity here in the US.

I think it depends on the area. Asian gangs are a big problem in DC. 
They had to open a police station right on the premises of our biggest
Vietnamese shopping center to stop the killings.  I've heard that
Asian gangs are the dominant crime force in Toronto.  Japan is very
orderly because their cops interview every household each year.  They
have around a 99% conviction rate.  Is that because they are just
sooooo much smarter than we are or because they don't mind slinging
innocent people in jail. (As long as they have poor family connections.)






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