--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Vaj wrote:
> 
> >On Jun 25, 2005, at 12:32 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>I also find that some
> >>gentle attentiveness vs. allowing the mind to just mess around 
makes a 
> >>big
> >>difference in terms of clarity and frequency of transcending.
> >>
> >>At Estes Park, M quoted the Vedas as saying, "Be easy to us with 
gentle
> >>effort."
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >And indeed this very simple attentiveness--or mindfulness--is one 
of 
> >the key antidotes to laxity and torpor. But of course this is not 
> >taught as part of TM, it's sad Rick that this is buried in some 
old 
> >tape and not integrated into practice. I don't know about you, but 
I've 
> >met a good number of meditators who ended up being drained by such 
> >torpor. Laxity is believed to be a intentional mental process 
where the 
> >meditative object (in this case Self or mantra) is not perceived 
with 
> >vividness. Once meditation reaches the "effortless" stage (where 
one 
> >simply sits and can transcend for at least an hour at a time with 
no 
> >breaks) this tends to disappear as delusion is dissolved. Without 
> >mindfulness and some forcefulness its hard if not impossible to 
get to 
> >the deeper levels of meditation. I always liked the analogy of 
> >Shakyamuni of having the lute strings 'not to tight or not to 
loose'; 
> >that's just how mindfulness is.
> >
> >It's said that if torpor is not conquered, ones intelligence will 
> >decrease. Now there'd be an interesting scientific study! :-)
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> Doing japa with a mala or counting with the fingers often helps 
> mindfulness and increases the intensity of the meditation.

But is not TM...




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