agreed-- really well said dr. pete. enlightenment is real, viable 
and experienced-- just not by -thinking-

raunchydog, i don't get your comments at all- care to clarify please?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchy...@...> 
wrote:
>
> Excellent, Peter. It's exactly the map of the territory Maharishi 
has
> been telling grasshopper, identifying for years with the weeds he's
> been smokin'.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <drpetersutphen@> 
wrote:
> >
> > Enlightenment is not what you think because:
> > 
> > You can not get enlightened.
> > 
> > A thought is necessarily bound by time and space and therefore 
has
> nothing to do with enlightenment.
> > 
> > You can not "model" enlightenment.
> > 
> > So with those caveats.....
> > 
> > In ignorance you are somebody. A psychological private self that
> relates to the world.
> > 
> > Then you get 1st stage enlightenment and you are nobody. 
Actually,
> no "you" to be or not to be. Consciousness becomes conscious of its
> own consciousness and withdraws identity with any space/time
> experience. No-Self. No localization of consciousness. Weird as 
shit
> for the mind. "You" no longer exist, only consciousness within 
which
> everything occurs.
> > 
> > Then you get 2nd stage enlightenment Grasshopper. Now you are
> everybody. Consciousness awakens to its bound value of space and 
time
> as simply consciousness. All moving within itself. From "here to 
here
> through there" according to Maharishi. Those are good words. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Peter <drpetersutphen@> wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Peter <drpetersutphen@>
> > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of 
enlightenment
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 8:18 PM
> > > Enlightenment is not what you think.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- On Tue, 1/27/09, ruthsimplicity
> > > <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > From: ruthsimplicity <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of
> > > enlightenment
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 5:10 PM
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> > > enlightened_dawn11
> > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > enlightenment is that state of consciousness in
> > > which
> > > > a person no 
> > > > > longer identifies with, and gets lost in, the
> > > objects
> > > > of perception. 
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > This sounds like the "I don't care
> > > anymore"
> > > > definition of enlightenment. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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