lol-- i got as far as the grasshopper living among the weeds and then got lost...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchy...@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > agreed-- really well said dr. pete. enlightenment is real, viable > > and experienced-- just not by -thinking- > > > > raunchydog, i don't get your comments at all- care to clarify please? > > > > Just jiving Peter. It's an analogy that obviously failed. It's a > stretch but my point was, the grasshopper identifies with the weeds in > which he lives so much so that he smokes the "weed" and hallucinates > his existence to be something "real." Sorry, I can't wrap my brain > around it any further than that. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Excellent, Peter. It's exactly the map of the territory Maharishi > > has > > > been telling grasshopper, identifying for years with the weeds he's > > > been smokin'. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <drpetersutphen@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Enlightenment is not what you think because: > > > > > > > > You can not get enlightened. > > > > > > > > A thought is necessarily bound by time and space and therefore > > has > > > nothing to do with enlightenment. > > > > > > > > You can not "model" enlightenment. > > > > > > > > So with those caveats..... > > > > > > > > In ignorance you are somebody. A psychological private self that > > > relates to the world. > > > > > > > > Then you get 1st stage enlightenment and you are nobody. > > Actually, > > > no "you" to be or not to be. Consciousness becomes conscious of its > > > own consciousness and withdraws identity with any space/time > > > experience. No-Self. No localization of consciousness. Weird as > > shit > > > for the mind. "You" no longer exist, only consciousness within > > which > > > everything occurs. > > > > > > > > Then you get 2nd stage enlightenment Grasshopper. Now you are > > > everybody. Consciousness awakens to its bound value of space and > > time > > > as simply consciousness. All moving within itself. From "here to > > here > > > through there" according to Maharishi. Those are good words. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Peter <drpetersutphen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: Peter <drpetersutphen@> > > > > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of > > enlightenment > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 8:18 PM > > > > > Enlightenment is not what you think. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 1/27/09, ruthsimplicity > > > > > <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > From: ruthsimplicity <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of > > > > > enlightenment > > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 5:10 PM > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > > > > enlightened_dawn11 > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enlightenment is that state of consciousness in > > > > > which > > > > > > a person no > > > > > > > longer identifies with, and gets lost in, the > > > > > objects > > > > > > of perception. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This sounds like the "I don't care > > > > > anymore" > > > > > > definition of enlightenment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > > > > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Or go to: > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > > > > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > > > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > Or go to: > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > > > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >