lol-- i got as far as the grasshopper living among the weeds and 
then got lost...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchy...@...> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
> <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > agreed-- really well said dr. pete. enlightenment is real, 
viable 
> > and experienced-- just not by -thinking-
> > 
> > raunchydog, i don't get your comments at all- care to clarify 
please?
> > 
> 
> Just jiving Peter. It's an analogy that obviously failed. It's a
> stretch but my point was, the grasshopper identifies with the 
weeds in
> which he lives so much so that he smokes the "weed" and 
hallucinates
> his existence to be something "real." Sorry, I can't wrap my brain
> around it any further than that. 
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Excellent, Peter. It's exactly the map of the territory 
Maharishi 
> > has
> > > been telling grasshopper, identifying for years with the weeds 
he's
> > > been smokin'.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <drpetersutphen@> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Enlightenment is not what you think because:
> > > > 
> > > > You can not get enlightened.
> > > > 
> > > > A thought is necessarily bound by time and space and 
therefore 
> > has
> > > nothing to do with enlightenment.
> > > > 
> > > > You can not "model" enlightenment.
> > > > 
> > > > So with those caveats.....
> > > > 
> > > > In ignorance you are somebody. A psychological private self 
that
> > > relates to the world.
> > > > 
> > > > Then you get 1st stage enlightenment and you are nobody. 
> > Actually,
> > > no "you" to be or not to be. Consciousness becomes conscious 
of its
> > > own consciousness and withdraws identity with any space/time
> > > experience. No-Self. No localization of consciousness. Weird 
as 
> > shit
> > > for the mind. "You" no longer exist, only consciousness within 
> > which
> > > everything occurs.
> > > > 
> > > > Then you get 2nd stage enlightenment Grasshopper. Now you are
> > > everybody. Consciousness awakens to its bound value of space 
and 
> > time
> > > as simply consciousness. All moving within itself. From "here 
to 
> > here
> > > through there" according to Maharishi. Those are good words. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Peter <drpetersutphen@> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > From: Peter <drpetersutphen@>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of 
> > enlightenment
> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 8:18 PM
> > > > > Enlightenment is not what you think.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- On Tue, 1/27/09, ruthsimplicity
> > > > > <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > From: ruthsimplicity <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More definitions of
> > > > > enlightenment
> > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 5:10 PM
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > enlightened_dawn11
> > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > enlightenment is that state of consciousness in
> > > > > which
> > > > > > a person no 
> > > > > > > longer identifies with, and gets lost in, the
> > > > > objects
> > > > > > of perception. 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This sounds like the "I don't care
> > > > > anymore"
> > > > > > definition of enlightenment. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
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