Kirk, Great job. Having read Lakshmi-Tantra, your post is hilarious. However, you did over-extend a bit on a couple of points.
Although Maharishi's sampradaya begins with Narayana this doesn't mean that his lineage was Vaishnava. Adi-Shankara began his lineage of guru-praises with Narayana because Narayana is the One at the very "no-begining" of his lineage of direct transmission. Maharishi followed this same line of direct transmission but that doesn't mean he was a Vaishnava. SBS was part of the smarta transmission of Adi-Shankara yet he practiced Shri Yantra. However that didn't make him a Shakta. Shri Yantra revolves around Anutarika yet Shri is tarika according to Lakshmi Tantra. Shri Vidya is focussed on tarika yet anutarika threads all forms of its practice. One sampradaya says "I'm the esoteric, and the other is exoteric", yet the other sampradaya says the reverse. Perhaps they should just fight and kill each to establish domination. After all, this is what Shakti does - she dances this Lila for the entertainment of her Lord. So you claim bhoga comes from bhaga? All enjoyment come from a vagina? I would rather say that all pleasure and pain (bhoga) comes from the vagina. Which brings up another point: according to Samkhya-Yoga the procreatrix (prakriti) dances for the spectator (drishta) and will continue until she feels she is adequetely seen and appreciated. Only then will she retire and return to rest. According to the Vaishnava's there is only one purusha (male) and he is Purshottoma (the ultimate male/person). He is Narayana and everything else is the opposite of him and is thus female (yoni). That means we are all yoni-s or recepticles waiting to be filled by god's creative effluence - known as logoi spermatikoi or seminal raisons in western parlance. Conclusion 1: we are all pussies waiting to be filled by god. Conclusion 2: yoga is ultimate union because females such as we are (the yoni-s) can never be satisfied by anything other than a god. Conclusion 3: tantra is a form of ettiquette defining right view and right conduct toward the goddess-shaktis who empower and manifest this whole cosmos. Finis: This would explain why I am bitch-slapped daily by the gunas of the pracreatix to keep me in my place. This would also explain the high-indifference of god to my suffering in this world - or as his eminence the purushottoma would say (as he kicks my ass into the next kalpa) - ''whatever!?" --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <kirk_bernha...@...> wrote: Basic mantra knowledge if tantra explains at outset difference of shakti and shiva mantras EEm as opposed to OM, which Lakshmi tantra goes into great depths. Typically Hrim is called Tarika mantra or mantra which carries across the ocean of samsara. Shrim is Anutarika, and Om is taraka. This is all really basic mantra knowledge at least from Hindu Sanatana Dharma and its allied Vaishnava or conservative householder tantras. But this Vaishnava tantra teaches to live in the world as a householder. It is not so much for renunciants. Also it is a closed school, that is, only really other Vaishnavas are savvy to it. People who realize either Lakshmi or Lakshmi-Narasimha are very practical worldly tantrics of Vaishnava and very lucky due to no limitations placed on worldly enjoyments. Bhoga comes from Bhaga. Worldly maya possesses charm through shakti. Upholding the feminine is very Vaishnava and should be taught as an adjunct to TM. The woman rather than the man worshipped or both together. Or as so often is happening one of a couple can use their bhaga. Bhaga anyway takes on more universal implications when one considers the nature of reality to be as equally chaotic as the conch while still presenting some sort of universal constant which as shakti is the slickness of reality when presented with the erect intuition. Or something. I don't know I made it all up. Obviously. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "nablusoss1008" no_re...@yahoogroups.com > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 10:21 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Significance of the Global Country of World > Peace > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" kirk_bernhardt@ wrote: > >> > >> Yes it is Vaishnava of the Lakshmi school, and TM is based in the > > Lakshmi Tantra, which so few TM initiators know. Which is odd. > > Mahalakshmi is the Matron Deity of TM. > > > > > > That's an interesting observation. > > From where do you have this information, and how/why do you distinguish > > the different Deitys in regard to Maharishis Movement ? > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >