--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote: <snip> > And in others here, WHY do they believe the > things they so clearly believe? [...] WHY does > another clearly believe that she has no Free > Will, and yet chide others for abusing theirs?
The problem here is that you don't understand the nature of the belief you cite. There's no contradiction involved. (And BTW--from another of your posts today-- "Only a True Believer responds to disagreement with the words, 'You just don't understand'"-- this is rather obviously not true.) The weird thing is that your misunderstanding about free will has been explained to you many times, but you simply can't let go of it. Or *won't* let go of it, because it's a handy weapon for bashing people. Even weirder, the key to the correct understanding is something you yourself have insisted on many times, that reality is different in different states of consciousness. <snip> > It's an enduring koan to me, one that keeps me here and > keeps me posting. What IS it about the magical phrase > "Maharishisez" (which is my answer to all the WHYs above) > that "trumps" common sense, that "trumps" logic, that > "trumps" even the fear of being laughed at? That may be *your* answer, but it isn't necessarily the answer for many of us. <snip> > But the other thing I think you can say about them almost > without fear of contradiction is that they have never > asked themselves WHY they believe the things that they > say. To do so would gnaw away at that sense of certainty > that they strove so hard to achieve. For some, perhaps, but not all by any means. Indeed, for some it's just the opposite: to the degree that they're certain about something, it's because what MMY taught wasn't enough in and of itself, and they consulted other sources (including their personal experience and their own intellectual analysis) before deciding that whatever it was made sense. It seems to me that your conclusion here is really a way to avoid considering different ways of understanding things than the ones you prefer, because that would disturb *your* sense of certainty. And despite your elaborate lip service to the notion that you aren't certain about anything, in fact you're quite certain about many of the things you preach to us here--more certain, even, than some of us who hold the beliefs you deride.
