--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <lengli...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Feb 11, 2009, at 5:22 AM, sparaig wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"
> > > > >> <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Curtis writes in this, "I don't share his (Maharishi's) view
> > > > >>> that the silence experienced in meditation is our true nature
> > or our
> > > > >>> real self."
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Ouch, is that right? True?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Without the belief system mindset experiencing the silence of
> > > > >> meditation is not obviously my "true" nature or "real
self." It is
> > > > >> just a state of mind I can experience. I don't know what it
> > means but
> > > > >> I would not on my own assume it was a part of me that survives
> > death
> > > > >> for example, or any of the other magical properties Maharishi
> > > > >> ascribes
> > > > >> to it.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Do you feel that it is your true nature or real self? Why?
> > > > >
> > > > > If silence is more consistent than non-silence, how could
you NOT
> > > > > identify it
> > > > > as being "more real" than non-silence?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > IME, meditators get addicted to "silent" states and calm,
thought-
> > > > free states, just makes them "flat". I suspect this is why many
> > > > outsiders experience TM folks as having a flat affect. They
don't
> > > > integrate thought, they're too busy trying to escape it.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Certainly mood-making would make folks "off" and no-doubt
there's lots
> > > of mood-making going on at MUM. On the other hand, Fred Travis
has been
> > > at MUM for nearly 30 years and doesn't come off that way.
> > >
> > >
> > > L.
> > >
> > Maybe Fred Travis doesn't meditate too much.
> >
>
> Maybe not. OR maybe he is just a busy researcher who meditates
regularly.
>
>
> L.
> I am sure his activity helps a lot.
