--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." <wg...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
> <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > again, i respectfully differ. all 7 must be open in order to 
achieve 
> > CC, the result of which then ripens through devotion into GC, 
and 
> > then further into UC. 
> > 
> > as long as any chakras are unopened, or uncleared, there cannot 
be a 
> > reliable direct channel between the individual and the universal 
> > energies; no permanent sustainable enlightenment. once this 
channel 
> > is open and sustained, we are off and running so to speak, 
merging 
> > first from the duality of CC, to the refined duality of GC into 
the 
> > oneness of UC. 
> 
> I don't believe that is true, though since neither of us is there 
it
> will always be conjecture, at any rate, what you are saying is
> basically what MMY taught, but you must remember he never 
correlated 
> the states of realization with the chakras so you need to name your
> source?
> 
> You must remember CC is only Self Realization, that is Soul
> Realization, it doesn't embrace the World Soul or GC until the
> experience overflows the individual nervous system and takes on the
> 'reflection' of the world nervous system. Unity (or PC) is, like 
you
> mentioned, immanent AND transcendent.
> 
> CC is only realization of Being on the level of the individual 
ONLY,
> Quote: "The silence which is experienced in cosmic consciousness, 
and
> which separates the Self from activity, is on an infinitely smaller
> scale, for it is on the level of *individual* existence."  MMY Gita
> CHVI vs3.
> 
> With all due respect, here again perhaps the bubble diagram has
> confused you. It's an interesting subject because MMY never spoke 
in
> detail what is at the source of thought, per se IMO and based on my
> research.
>
Oh Ok-- thanks for the clarification. you could be right, based on 
what MMY has said above.

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