--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." <wg...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11
> <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > again, i respectfully differ. all 7 must be open in order to
achieve
> > CC, the result of which then ripens through devotion into GC,
and
> > then further into UC.
> >
> > as long as any chakras are unopened, or uncleared, there cannot
be a
> > reliable direct channel between the individual and the universal
> > energies; no permanent sustainable enlightenment. once this
channel
> > is open and sustained, we are off and running so to speak,
merging
> > first from the duality of CC, to the refined duality of GC into
the
> > oneness of UC.
>
> I don't believe that is true, though since neither of us is there
it
> will always be conjecture, at any rate, what you are saying is
> basically what MMY taught, but you must remember he never
correlated
> the states of realization with the chakras so you need to name your
> source?
>
> You must remember CC is only Self Realization, that is Soul
> Realization, it doesn't embrace the World Soul or GC until the
> experience overflows the individual nervous system and takes on the
> 'reflection' of the world nervous system. Unity (or PC) is, like
you
> mentioned, immanent AND transcendent.
>
> CC is only realization of Being on the level of the individual
ONLY,
> Quote: "The silence which is experienced in cosmic consciousness,
and
> which separates the Self from activity, is on an infinitely smaller
> scale, for it is on the level of *individual* existence." MMY Gita
> CHVI vs3.
>
> With all due respect, here again perhaps the bubble diagram has
> confused you. It's an interesting subject because MMY never spoke
in
> detail what is at the source of thought, per se IMO and based on my
> research.
>
Oh Ok-- thanks for the clarification. you could be right, based on
what MMY has said above.