On Apr 5, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:

On Apr 5, 2009, at 10:27 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:

You have plenty of emotion that you express in your positions here. Neither of us are summing up your objections as stemming from a psychological problem you have. Is it too much to ask for this courtesy in return?

In Judy's case, yes.  That's apparently the only
way she wants to deal with legitimate objections--
villify the messenger--read their minds--use manipulation
and fake "concern" instead of responding rationally. And then
she accuses others of being "distraught."  Which is
why I don't deal with her any more...there's no honor
amongst thieves, or, it would seem, manipulators and phonies.


Yes, you're right, these have been common tactics in the past--all part and parcel of her overall dishonest approach. Another fave, and if I'm grokking tidbits in others clippings correctly, is when nailed on something or particularly when some TM dogmatic point she's VERY attached to is rent asunder, rather than addressing the actual intellectual or factual elements of the argument, she'll switch to some unrelated element in the person: they don't understand stand TM (as when they no longer use TM speak), their counseling practice, faulty TM practice, etc. The varieties seem endless, but the pattern is observable and repeated. It's interesting the person who seems so fond of telling people they are guilty of non sequiturs is actually the one who tries to craftily use them herself. Apparently misdirection must be the only way she can respond when arguments stray outside of TB/SCI/TM milieu. Sometimes it's better to just shuddup.

Of course she could have some strange vitamin deficiency related to shoe leather. ;-)

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