Ha Ha-- by the way, i recently discovered a great sauvignon blanc by the De 
Sante label. not too dry, with subtle tropical flavors. 

also a prosecco (italian sparkling wine) from Bollicini. small bubbles and not 
too sweet.

...and i admit i do TM too...so two strikes against me...no wait, i also own a 
CROSS pen... 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan <no_re...@...> wrote:
>
> And drinking wine is totally Catholic! 
> 
> Have you seen the funny hats their leaders wear? And the weird ceremonies?! 
> They believe wine to be the blood of God. Not just the name of God -- like 
> those crazy mixed up Meditationists, but 10 steps above that in crazy religio 
> talk -- they give out wine as the Blood of God. Far more twisted than those 
> cheap bastard Meditationsts who just give out measly names of gods. 
> 
> So clearly mantras and wine are religious things, they are the name and form 
> of God. Thats what the people who give them out say. Ergo meditating and 
> drinking are religions.  
> 
> (Mind you, like richard and maybe curtis, I think causation is just a 
> projection, so I can't be for sure they are really "giving" them "out", just 
> that the mantras and wine are found "out"  and the Catholics and the 
> Meditationists were found "giving" -- so I project onto it all they are 
> "giving out" -- but causality, thats another story) 
> 
> So, no more wine in schools! We cannot have these religious acts in publicly 
> funded schools - it violates the constitution man! (or so I have been told, I 
> haven't actually read the darn thing.)
> 
> And those wine bars!! Luring in innocents by getting all gussied up and 
> secular. But they are just fronts to lure in the innocents to get them 
> drinking wine -- and next thing you know they wake up with a huge funny hat 
> on their head. You know, that insidious practice far out eclipes those 
> secular looking religious fronts known as meditation centers that those crazy 
> Meditationists put up all over the place. 
> 
> So ban wine from public schools! Particularly the boxed kind -- thats so 
> trailer park! (Not that I can precisely link the "banning" with the "absence" 
> of wine in schools. Jesus, I am not even sure there are schools -- that might 
> all be my projection too. Maybe Jim knows.)
> 
> But one thing I AM sure of: the practice of meditation and of drinking wine 
> in the home are absolutely related to and based on the crazy inner worlds of 
> the groups that give them out. Crazy religious practices. I mean that's 
> fundamental. No projection there! 
> 
> And don't get me going on football games. Did you know that the players 
> huddle around (so gay!) and pray just before the games. And some  KNEEL! 
> Kneeling man! Thats the core of all religious acts. 
> They pray and kneel IN schools just before those religious pagents known by 
> their secular disguise -- football games. No more religious based football 
> games in schools! 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > From the "Maharishi Channel," thanks to TM-Free:
> > 
> > http://tmfree.blogspot.com/2009/04/still-not-religion-video-of-puja.html
> > 
> > This page contains an embedded video of Maharishi
> > leading a group performance of the TM puja, sur-
> > rounded by the Rajas in full costume. 
> > 
> > I'm sorry that I can't figure out a way to post 
> > a direct link to just the video, but it's embedded
> > in such a way that I don't know how to do that.
> > 
> > For those who see nothing the least bit religious
> > about the TM puja or the way that the 'Rajas' dress
> > and conduct themselves, this video should reinforce
> > those beliefs.
> > 
> > For those who believe that just maybe what this
> > video captures is very much religious indeed, it
> > should reinforce *those* beliefs.
> > 
> > Compare and contrast this videotaped occasion and
> > *its* style and presentation with the current 
> > "cleaned up" style and presentation of the tm.org
> > website and the "new face" that the TMO wants to 
> > show the public following the recent DLF concert. 
> > Whatever your beliefs, ask yourself WHY they want
> > to present this "new face."
> > 
> > Whatever your stance about the "TM is/isn't a 
> > religion" issue, ask yourself, "If the TMO was
> > proud enough of this occasion to broadcast it on
> > its 'Maharishi Channel,' why don't they place this
> > or similar videos on the tm.org website, so that
> > all of the million kids they hope to teach TM to
> > can see a preview of the ceremony they will soon
> > be participating in?"
> > 
> > Further ask yourself, "If the TM Rajas dress this
> > way normally, why didn't they dress this way at
> > the DLF concert?"
> > 
> > Maybe think about Maharishi's introduction itself,
> > "We have the opportunity to do puja to Guru Dev."
> > Notice the language: "TO Guru Dev." Compare and
> > contrast to some of the descriptions of the puja
> > and what it's about that have been presented here
> > on Fairfield Life.
> > 
> > Ponder recent claims that "kneeling is kneeling"
> > and that it's not really a "bowing down" to what
> > these practitioners of the TM puja do at 09:35 into
> > the video. The person who created the puja and in
> > this video defines it as a ceremony "TO Guru Dev,"
> > and the costumed leaders of the TM movement that
> > surround him seem to have a slightly different
> > interpretation of what 'namah' means and how to
> > demonstrate it than the person who said "kneeling
> > is kneeling." Looks a lot like "bowing down" to me.
> > 
> > Check out the paintings on the walls and the way
> > that the room is decorated.
> > 
> > Check out the scene at 00:35 into the video and
> > the guy seated on a raised dias, higher than Maha-
> > rishi, and how he is dressed and the offerings and
> > adornments laid out at his feet. Dat's Da King,
> > the current leader of the TM movement. Nothing 
> > religious about him and how *he* is presented and
> > treated and his relationship to other people, 
> > right?
> > 
> > Enjoy, in whatever fashion you choose to enjoy it...
> >
>


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