--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <babajii...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <geezerfreak@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "guyfawkes91" <guyfawkes91@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > I see it as a race against time and betting on creating a higher level
> > > > of consciousness through current work (pundits, yagyas, groups,
> > > > etc.,)so that people will be attracted to TM - though this last point
> > > > will be like a red flag to a bull for some here on FFL.
> > > >
> > > > If the number of people in the TMO continues to decline through
> > > > age/death etc., and there are no new people coming in, money/buildings
> > > > and so on will not work.
> > > >
> > > > When I was still aligned with TMO, even in early 90's it was clear to
> > > > me from friends who worked closer to the inner circle than me (not
> > > > difficult), MMY clearly stated to his inner circle that he realized
> > > > that he was not going to achieve what he had intended in his lifetime
> > > > ("in this generation").
> > > >
> > > > Science
> > > >
> > >
> > > It's quite sad really. It's a hail mary pass with nearly zero chance of
> > > success. I can see that the general idea is that people inside the TMO
> > > think the reason people outside aren't attracted to learn TM is because
> > > of lack of "coherence" in collective consciousness. So the reasoning goes
> > > that by doing yagyas and creating large groups of flyers more people will
> > > be attracted. It allows the idea to develop that because there's going to
> > > be a phase transition and suddenly everyone will bow down to the almighty
> > > Rajas that it's OK to piss people off and flush all the goodwill down the
> > > toilet because new goodwill will be generated "after the phase
> > > transition".
> > >
> > > What's happened, and to an extent is still happening, is that the real
> > > value, the human resources and general goodwill is being run down and
> > > replaced with fantasy value in the form of buildings and land. For an
> > > organization that wants to get its idea across, buildings and land have
> > > very little value compared with credibility and goodwill in the world.
> > > You can easily convert goodwill into property, but it's hard to go the
> > > other way.
> > >
> > > But of course we know that the reality is that loads of people would
> > > learn TM anyway if only the price was right, teachers could earn a living
> > > and the people in the TMO didn't behave like a lot of idiots. TM on it's
> > > own is very good, most people get some benefit and a lot are willing to
> > > encourage others. The fact that people who leave the official movement
> > > and teach independently have no problem attracting customers is an
> > > irritant in more ways than one. Firstly it's irritating because the TMO
> > > doesn't get the money, but mostly it's irritating because it shows up the
> > > TMO and makes people inside the TMO start to doubt the overall strategy
> > > and think that maybe, just maybe the reason more people aren't learning
> > > TM isn't because of lack of coherence, maybe they're doing something
> > > wrong (duhhhhhhh!). We're dealing with very slow learners here.
> > >
> > > At some point the slow learners might realize that charging very high
> > > prices, taking all the profit away from the teachers, dressing up as
> > > kings and living in a fantasy world might not be the best way to attract
> > > lots of people. Some cracks are starting to appear and reality is
> > > starting to dawn, but it's like dealing with a mental patient who's
> > > coming out of a very florid psychosis or someone coming down from a very
> > > intense acid trip in which they've lost the plot. There's a growing half
> > > recognized feeling that things which they believed to be true, aren't
> > > actually true, but insight into their condition hasn't yet broken through.
> > >
> > > Currently the donations from wealthy people are supporting the
> > > delusionists. The DLF makes it look like if only some money could be got
> > > together for one last push then everything would come out right. In 5 to
> > > 10 years time that idea will be wearing a bit thin.
> > >
> > > Eventually people might realize that the reason Maharishi couldn't
> > > achieve what he wanted "in this generation" wasn't lack of coherence, but
> > > simple stupidity and delusional thinking. If the TMO hadn't gone off into
> > > a fantasy world but had stayed engaged with reality and stayed focused on
> > > just teaching TM, then the situation would be a lot brighter than it is.
> > >
> > > At that point, the fact that all the real wealth, in the form of
> > > intangible goodwill has been sucked out of the movement over the last 30
> > > years to support plans that haven't worked is going to be a very hard
> > > idea to get to grips with. All those buildings and property assets that
> > > Maharishi put his faith in will be seen as worthless when there's no one
> > > to fill them or make use of them. It will take time, but that awful
> > > realization will come, and then the movement will have a chance again to
> > > grow.
> > >
> > > What would help people get out of their delusions is if they could see
> > > the full extent of all the dubious business dealings that have gone on in
> > > the last 20 years. There are very good reasons why Bevan refuses to
> > > publish a full independent audit of the entire global operation. Like you
> > > say the full extent of the property assets will not become generally
> > > known. Which is why people should try to piece together a full picture
> > > from whatever scraps are available. If people at the top of the
> > > organization want to keep people away from finding out about the finances
> > > then that's a good reason to find out as much as possible.
> > >
> > > It's not hard to begin to get a rough idea from published accounts that
> > > are available online. The tricky bit is finding out about the finances of
> > > the Indian movement so cash flows can be matched up. Also all the
> > > property deals in foreign places need tracing. Where could we start?
> > >
> >
> > Very well put! The first step, as I've said many times, is to follow the
> > money honey! Find out where all the money is going, where it has gone.
> > (space snip)
> Sorry, the divorce is final...the money is gone...but it's not about money...
> Don't ya git it.
> It's not about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$...
> It's about creating an atomosphere of love, or whatever you want to call it...
> People have the money.
> It's not about the money.
> Repeat after me: 'It's not about the money!'
> R.g.
>
Sorry man, can't do that. To the Shrivastava/Varma clan it IS about the money
and has been for quite some time. Allow yourself to consider this Bob. Try it.
I've tried it your way long ago.
At the same time, I willingly admit that I don't KNOW without a shred of doubt.
And neither do you. But it's what I feel from everything I have seen first hand
and heard.
