--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jst...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > > The "box turtle" statement above is really making the
> > > > > case against gay marriage by not making the case: It
> > > > > is not telling you what is wrong with gay marriage,
> > > > > but rather saying that if you allow gay marriage then
> > > > > you will have to allow something else you might not like."
> > > > > 
> > > > > Read more...
> > > > > http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/01/29/8452
> > > > > http://tinyurl.com/brsdvm
> > > > 
> > > > That's one way of looking at it; another way is to say
> > > > that those that support gay marriage and not other
> > > > kinds of marriage are hypocrites.
> > > 
> > > Not if same-sex marriage is much more similar to
> > > opposite-sex marriage than it is to these "other
> > > kinds of marriage," which it obviously is.
> > > 
> > > If there were a movement in favor of incestuous
> > > marriage or polygamy or box-turtle marriage as 
> > > substantial as there is in favor of same-sex 
> > > marriage, you might have a point (although there
> > > would still be good arguments against it), but
> > > there isn't.
> > 
> > I don't know what you mean by "substantial" but I
> > suspect you mean "significant numbers".  Certainly,
> > there are WAY more gays than any of the other members
> > of groups mentioned.
> > 
> > But civil rights shouldn't be dependent upon
> > "numbers"; that is, simply because of the power of
> > voting or influence given by substantial numbers
> > should not dictate who does and does not get civil rights.
> 
> And the civil rights arguments in favor of polygamy,
> incestuous marriage, and box-turtle marriage are...?
>

Much the same as the arguments for gay marriage: loving relationships, 
equality, alternative marriage, etc.

What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander...

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