--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <no_re...@...> wrote:
>
> These crime statitics are BS, because Britain includes 
> robbery as a violent crime, whereas most other countries 
> do not (USA included.)
> 
> Britain is probably just average when you take out the 
> robbery statistic,

Now we know why Off still believes in "TM science."

He never bothers to read the studies.

This one specifically stated that robbery was not
one of the categories of crime considered violent.
The same categories were measured for all countries.

As for the gun-control speculation, France is at
the bottom of the list. It is almost impossible
to buy a handgun in France. It can take six months
to buy a shotgun for legitimate hunting purposes.
And yet, there is France at the bottom of the 
violent crime list. Same in the UK with the ability
of the average citizen to own a handgun...almost 
impossible. And yet there is the UK at the top of 
the violent crime list.

One thinks back to the statistic mentioned in 
"Bowling For Columbine," that Canada and the US
have almost the same percentage of gun ownership.
And yet Canada has a fraction of the US's violent
crime per capita.

It's the idiots who own the guns, not the guns.

Similarly, it's the people who live in the countries
who are intrinsically violent or non-violent, not 
the countries.

Stop trying to make something simple complicated.


> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Jul 4, 2009, at 2:03 AM, cardemaister wrote:
> >
> > > 1. Great Britain
> >
> >
> > Worry not, the Religion of Peace has established as many as 85 Sharia
> > Courts to bring coherence to Great Britain:
> >
> > 85 Sharia courts now operating in Britain
> > According to the think tank Civitas, "Among the rulings ... we find
> > some that advise illegal actions and others that transgress human
> > rights standards as they are applied by British courts."
> >
> > But to intervene would be "Islamophobic." It might "radicalize"
> > people. The next question is: In the course of setting up Sharia
> > courts, did authorities establish any process for shutting them down,
> > or did they assume that simply wouldn't be necessary?
> >
> > "85 sharia courts in UK, says report," from the Press Association,
> > June 29:
> >
> > There are as many as 85 sharia courts operating in Britain, according
> > to a new report.Academic Denis MacEoin, the report's author, said the
> > existence of the courts practising Islamic law could lead to different
> > legal standards being applied to Muslim and non-Muslim citizens.He
> > said many of the courts operate out of mosques and their rulings are
> > closed off to non-Muslims.
> > A recipe for disaster, as transparency is a key characteristic of good
> > government. If the courts have something to hide, there is a problem
> > (even beyond the problems inherent in the letter of Sharia law) that
> > should be investigated and exposed.
> >
> > In previous reports it was claimed there were only five sharia courts
> > in the UK, working in London, Manchester, Bradford, Birmingham and
> > Nuneaton.He said: "This is not a matter of eating halal meat or
> > seeking God's blessing on one's marriage. It is a challenge to what we
> > believe to be the rights and freedoms of the individual, to our
> > concept of a legal system based on what parliament enacts, and to the
> > right of all of us to live in a society as free as possible from
> > ethnic-religious division or communal claims to superiority and a
> > special status that puts them in some respects above the law to which
> > we are all bound."His report, published by the think-tank Civitas,
> > includes a list of previous sharia judgements which he believes give
> > an indication of the type of ruling being handed down by the courts
> > working in the UK.Among the examples quoted are laws banning a Muslim
> > woman from marrying a non-Muslim unless he converts to Islam and the
> > removal of a wife's property rights in the event of divorce.The report
> > states: "Among the rulings ... we find some that advise illegal
> > actions and others that transgress human rights standards as they are
> > applied by British courts."
> >
>


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