--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand" <premanandp...@...> wrote: > > I recall someone at FFL wanted to speak with Jerry Jarvis > and I thought some sort of link was being made between them, > but soon after I didn't track postings for FFL for a long while, > so I wondered whether I had missed this one.
I don't think you missed anything. As I remember it, Edg declared that he wanted to get in touch with Jerry to give him a piece of his mind. Someone here who is in touch with Jerry (I think it was yifuxero) offered to put them in touch. As I remember it, Edg never followed through. At the same time, Jerry also sent me his email address (because I guess my name had come up) and invited me to contact him, but I didn't because although I still like him a lot, I really have nothing to say to him. In a way I'm sorry that I even bothered to respond to Nabby bringing up this crap again. Most of the time I consider him just a harmless crank and ignore him. But occasionally -- when his "Gotta protect Maharishi, even if it involves lying" buttons get pushed -- he veers over the line into vindictiveness. This is one of those occasions. In my opinion the fact that he would do this says a great deal more about him than it does about me. He knows what the truth is, and I suspect that his silence on this matter now that I've busted on it -- again -- will confirm it. If there were ever a post made to FFL (other than his) that even remotely claimed I'd been "thrown out of the TM movement for security reasons," he'd be able to produce it. He cannot, because it never existed. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand" <premanandpaul@> wrote: > > > > > > Turquoise, the comment from Jerry Jarvis, what post was that in? > > > > Actually, Jerry never commented on Nabby's claim > > directly. He just sent me his best wishes via some- > > one else here when they brought up my name to him, > > as I would expect him to. > > > > Nabby made up this whole "he was thrown out of the > > TMO for security reasons" thing. In the past, when > > called on it, Nabby has claimed that someone else > > posted it to this forum, but that never happened. > > He just made the whole thing up to smear me. > > > > I *left* the TMO. I went on my six-month siddhis > > course, came home, took one look at what was happen- > > ing in the movement back home and that it sadly > > looked exactly like what was happening to it over > > in Europe, and split. I didn't say goodbye, I didn't > > make a scene...I just left. At least one person who > > posts to this forum from time to time can validate > > this, because he knew me then and, as it turns out, > > he split at about the same time and for similar > > reasons. My only involvement with the TMO after my > > six-month course was to go to the L.A. "flying hall" > > from time to time (where I was always welcome), but > > I did that mainly to pick up women. :-) > > > > I'm just tired of this crap from Nabby. If he doesn't > > like what I say about TM, the TMO, and Maharishi, that > > is his right. But when he just makes up shit that's > > going too far. Then he becomes just like Willytex. :-) > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "fflmod" <fflmod@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > What about on leap years? > > > > > > > > On February 29th the CIA pays me overtime, so I > > > > usually post even more. Sometimes I even dump > > > > on Jesus. :-) > > > > > > > > What's fascinating is that in addition to trot- > > > > ting out the thing about me being tossed out of > > > > the TM movement (which Nabby knows is a lie > > > > because it's been countered on this forum by > > > > no less a personage than Jerry J.), he perceives > > > > what I wrote about Maharishi in this post as > > > > "against him." It's not. It's simple fact. He > > > > really *has* presented TM as "the best" since > > > > Day One of his teaching. He really *has* taught > > > > all of his TM teachers to do the same thing. > > > > He really *has* provided them with cliche put- > > > > downs to use against any other spiritual trad- > > > > ition when references to them come up in talks. > > > > And Nabby should *know* this, because he still > > > > *uses* those preprogrammed putdowns himself, > > > > on a regular basis. For example, no one else > > > > on this forum has been as hateful towards > > > > Buddhists and Buddhism as Nabby has, and will > > > > be in the future. He'll see nothing wrong with > > > > doing this, and in fact will think of it as > > > > some kind of "dharma," in which he "protects" > > > > Maharishi and TM and All Things Holy. > > > > > > > > I merely pointed out that Maharishi carefully > > > > *trained* his followers to not only preach the > > > > dogma that TM is "the best," he carefully > > > > trained them to put down any other technique > > > > or tradition that was compared to TM. That > > > > does not make him or the people who still do > > > > what he trained them to do unique; there are > > > > many in the spiritual smorgasbord who do the > > > > same thing. What makes the TM variety of these > > > > "we're the bestest" folks unique is that their > > > > training (some would call it brainwashing) was > > > > so complete that *they don't even know that > > > > they're doing it*. At this point it's just > > > > pure reaction, a kind of warped "fight or > > > > flight" response to any suggestion that a > > > > form of meditation other than TM might be > > > > either as good or more effective in some ways. > > > > > > > > Again, the strength of my position in this > > > > thread is what I presented it to be. I am not > > > > pushing or recommending (let alone selling) > > > > any spiritual tradition or technique or belief > > > > system as "the best." Nabby is. And so are a > > > > great number of other TMers. And the *most* > > > > fascinating thing about it is that almost > > > > without exception none of these people com- > > > > pulsively pushing TM as "the best" *have > > > > ever tried anything else*. And then they > > > > have the nerve to say they weren't brain- > > > > washed into doing what they do and saying > > > > what they say. Go figure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > First, and obviously, it came from Maharishi, who proclaimed > > > > > > > TM'.... > > > > > > > > > > > > 35 years after this Barry the Turqey was kicked out of the > > > > > > TM, apparently for security reasons, and ages after he became > > > > > > a "Buddhist" he s t i l l hold grunges towards Maharishi > > > > > > and is posting against Him a minimum once every day/365 year > > > > > > after year ! > > > > > > > > > > > > What does that tell you about the quality and of his new "path" ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
