On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:34 PM, WillyTex wrote: > > > > > The Kalachakra Tantra (Wheel of Time) is a Buddhist > > > work, not Hindu. Kalachakri is a yidam of Kalachakra > > > in Vajrayana Buddhism - there is no 'Yab-Yum' in > > > Hindu iconography. > > > > Vaj wrote: > > There's both a pre-Buddhist (Hindu) Kalachakra and a > > Buddhist one... > > > There are no pre-Buddhist Kalachakras in India and no > Yab-Yum iconography in Hindu tantra. Obviously, the > Kalachakra Tantra is an invention of Vajrayana Buddhism, > which before 1947, was not extant in India. Kalachakra > doctrine is probably a Tibetan invention related to the > Shamballa mythology.
Sorry Willy, there was and still is a Hindu kalachakra AND there were yab-yum figures in Hindu tantra. What you perhaps meants to say was "you've never seen them". > > It is a fact that the 'Kalachakra Tantra' was not taught > by the historical Buddha (circa 400 BC). 'Shiva' and > 'Shakti' are not historical people. Is it a fact?