--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" <dhamiltony...@...> wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Passed along from Marek, who discovered it, a neat > > > video in which Richard Feynman, Carl Sagan, S. James > > > Gates, Jr., and Freeman Dyson discuss the very thing > > > I was trying to get at in my reply to Doug this > > > morning. What is it we "know?" What is it we even > > > *can* "know?" > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbtgNTmNuIw > > > > > > > > > That is fine as wishy-washy conjecture, but known is our experience when we > > have it and that spiritual experience can be very clear for what it is. > > Spiritual experience, when you have it, that is fact at that time. Not > > clear & you don't really know, then there likely is just some un-stressing > > going on and more cultivation is needed and some more to come to know by > > experience about it. Steps of spiritual progress through knowledge and > > experience of where and how to look. A good teacher and textbook evidently > > can be helpful along the way. > > > > The extraordinary modern progression of things human though is that the > > physiological correlates of spiritual experience can now be pointed at too. > > But further, that there is and has been experience that comes from > > collective spiritual practice just as real to those who do it. And so too > > that science with it. That there is an evident collective value to > > cultivating spiritual experience. That there is a difference between > > meditators and non-meditators by experience and evident science. Just is. > > Is not elitist, just fact. The modern policy implication: Meditate you > > sinners, it may take some discipline! The world evidently will be a better > > place as you come to it. > > > > Jai Guru Dev, > > -D > > > > Om Come all ye 'Followers of Science', > > I. > > These portending global changes may well come to pass in the daily and > ongoing passage of those 50 full coal trains passing through Fairfield. > Daily heading to power plants east; but, these pundits and a Fairfield > meditating community may represent a last great antidote to a vapid and > ostentatious materialism that hath spun this global change. For, is both > meditation and science now shouting, "Repent your ignorant sinful spending". > > In the pundit project and in a disciplined meditating are the bold and > far-seeing spiritual works of the fight for global climate. Come join the > fight. Come back to meditation for your selves, your friends, your family > and a future humanity. Come to action, in meditation.
You might be better off de-railing the trains Doug. Just a thought.
