--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli" <irmeli.matts...@...> wrote:
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> 
> > I've emphasized the interesting part in 
> > ALL CAPS below.
> > 
> > http://integrallife.com/node/60735
> > 
>   Integral 
> > practitioners should not be focusing on 
> > transforming the world, but rather helping 
> > people better translate the world from 
> > wherever they might be — after all, the 
> > best way to foster and support people's 
> > growth in the long run is to make them as 
> > healthy as possible in the short run."
> > 
> 
> Yes this is pretty much the emphasis in Ken Wilber's integral approaches. 
> Bringing to people new translations of their worldview at their present level 
> of structural development that makes them thrive better where ever they are 
> developmentally. This will make easier a healthy transformation to higher 
> structural levels. True transfromation cannot be forced. It happens on its 
> own, when you are ready. 
> 
> According to this philosophy at any level of structural development people 
> can get access to high meditative states,and benefit from them. Structural 
> development and learning to access to advanced states like Unity 
> consciousness in TM are in this philosophy seen as two different phenomenon. 
> A person can be in Unity state, and simultaneously low in his structural 
> personal development. This is an important distinction to make. And this I 
> think explains the many nasty things that have got revealed around gurus, who 
> have been perceived as enlightened by many. While they can be in an Unity 
> state, they can be morally, psychosexually etc. at a low developmental level.
> 



Are you asserting that -legitimate- states of higher consciousness including 
God Consciousness and Unity Consciousness can be obtained with total disregard 
for the principles of Dharma?


> Another important feature of integral life practices is to learn to look at 
> issues from as many perspectives as possible, not being stuck in just one 
> interpretation, or one way of seeing. This in itself can be very 
> transformative. Generally speaking the more evolved you are structurally the 
> more perspectives you can contain and own in yourself.
> 
> Irmeli
>


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