--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "It's just a ride" 
<bill.hicks.all.a.r...@...> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Vaj <vajradh...@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > If some sort of actual anti-gravity effect was going on, the sidhas would
> > *not* follow the standard parabolic arc seem in TM sidhas and common in
> > any trajectory where the body is not acted on by some other force other than
> > gravity (e.g. wind). It's just very basic physics.
> >
> > Therefore it's easy to conclude to sidha's "hops" are due to some sort of
> > muscle jerking. Height and length of trajectory also seems to correlate with
> > physical fitness and athletic prowess, i.e. gymnasts tend to be "better"
> > yogic hoppers.
> >
> > So in other words, it's a scam preying on people with weak powers of
> > discrimination.
> >
> >
> I've been in flying rooms for a couple decades. Every year or two I decide
> to take a look at other "flyers".  I look at the "flyers'" muscular effort
> then I look at the trajectory they follow.  I've developed a pretty good
> sense of how much power it takes to get, say, a ball in the air and the path
> it takes.  Y'all have developed this judgement as well.  I get very worried
> when it comes to me that these people aren't even doing yogic hopping.  They
> are twitching, cooperatively moving the legs and arms to facilitate "lift
> off", and following the path one would take in their air from the amount of
> physical effort they exerted.  I also examine my own "hopping".  It's very
> evident that there is no levitation involved.  If I hold my muscles very
> taut, I won't get a micron off the foam.  After this, it takes a few weeks
> to forget what I've re-discovered and become innocent once again with yogic
> "flying".  All I can say is that when one performs the sutra, there is at
> the beginning stage of practice a very strong desire to hop.  Maybe that's
> step 0.01 of yogic flying.

Or maybe it's the hour long tape you watch of Marshy in a 
dark room full of incense and the expectation that you are 
there to learn to fly and the first stage is hopping?

I have to say my first experience was pretty amazing but
it never repeated itself despite years spent doing long 
progs. I think it's tricky to judge for ourselves whether 
it's hypnosis/suggestion or something "real" and spontaneous.
I think people make very bad witnesses, especially to 
something they believe in. We can kid ourselves so easily,
especially when in a strong belief system like the TMO.
The things they teach about consciousness seem bizarre to 
me now but were so plausible at the time.

An experience can be amazing without breaking any natural
laws, until someone does that's all we have. After 30 years
I'm not expecting any sidhi mastery but I'd be overjoyed if
it someone did, be nice to know that everything we thought 
was right is in fact wrong!




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