--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" <geezerfr...@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: <snip> > > They aren't claiming anybody's doing anything but > > hopping yet. > > So why not call it "yogic hopping"? That would be truthful. > Calling it "yogic flying" is not.
As long as folks know what's involved before they plunk down their money for the course, what it's called doesn't bother me much. Lots of things aren't called exactly what they are, for PR purposes. > You believe it is an entirely involuntary action, right? > How do you explain in the film that all begin hopping > together, all know where the corner of the foam pad is, > and all start hopping when the camera happens to be > filming? I wouldn't swear the guys in the video weren't helping things out a little. I wasn't there. All I can tell you about is my own experience. I *have* experienced being one of several people who all started hopping at pretty much the same time, either because we all thought the sutra at the same time at the beginning of the session, or because (as it seemed) the impulse generated by the sutra had become so "lively" after folks had been hopping for a while that all it took to get a bunch of folks to hop was for one person to think the sutra and activate the impulse for all of them. It's a bit silly to ask why they all started to hop while the camera was filming. The camera was there to film them hopping, and presumably it would keep running as long as it had to to get hopping on film. As to knowing where the edge of the foam is, in my experience one generally doesn't lose the sense of where one is in relation to the room's layout or the objects or people in it. One is aware of getting close to an obstacle of some kind, another person or a wall or the edge of the foam, in this case, and that awareness is enough to kill the impulse if necessary, or to lead one to turn around and hop in the other direction. > I was a hopper for several years. It was obvious to me' > towards the end of that time that the biggest thing > going on in those rooms was group think and group action. What can I say? I'm sorry you didn't have the kind of experiences I've had. In a group, there's plenty of group "stuff" going on. Maybe some people are just following along intentionally, but the "stuff" I'm talking about-- the hopping impulse (as it seems) being lively in the group's somehow shared consciousness--has been very distinct and clear to me. > Now that was what....30 years ago. Nothing has changed. Nothing. Same old > hopping, albeit with a few more strained knees and backs. > > This isn't "yogic flying". It's the yogic equivalent of waiting for godot. >