tartbrain wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozg...@...> wrote:
>   
>> nablusoss1008 wrote:
>>     
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote:
>>> but 
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Did I mention 
>>>> lately how much I hate capitalism?
>>>>     
>>>>         
> The diversity of opinion in the world is a wonderous thing. And that one 
> would be in favor of sustained world poverty is an intriguing view.
>
> If you actually mean that you hate:
>
> - facade democracies that allow corrupt, crony elitists to rape and pillage 
> the economy
>
> - many instances of inappropriately regulated markets, often the result of 
> the above,
>
> -current schemes of regulation that are often corrupt and a tool of 
> neo-robber barons,
>
> - global corporations allowed to become too big to fail and have the world 
> economy by the balls, 
>
> - bailout of global corporate behemoths  by the US because their war room 
> rape and pillage headquarters are in new york,
>
> - the american dream of equal opportunity is a travesty as education receives 
> lower and lower priority
>
> -  that all corporations and citizens should be responsible for the costs 
> they cause and incur on society -- pollution is a good example. 
>
> then we are brothers in arms at the barricades -- in staunch disgust and 
> rebellion at current political and economic structures
>
>   

In the context of AT&T.  IOW, they have a proprietary or difficult way 
of replacing the router.  They have a monopoly because they own the 
phone lines around here.  Sure they lease to other backbones but they 
cap certain things like upload speeds.   I needed faster uploads and 
when Earthlink couldn't provide it because AT&T capped those I just went 
to AT&T instead.  The only other option is Comcast another monopoly.  
Big corporations are a problem as they run as if they ARE governments 
and might as well be.
> However, if you are dismissing or deriding the transformative power of  
> appropriately regulated markets (and we have a long way to go to reach 
> optimum regulatory levels and structures), entrepreneurship and innovation to 
> lift billions out of poverty (still a long way to go) then we do differ. 
> Yannus, founder of Grameen Bank -- the first micro-finance bank for the poor, 
> and Nobel prize winner, is an enthusiastic advocate of markets, capitalizing 
> the poor, and the failure of government programs, to raise the world out of 
> poverty. I tend to agree with him from what I have seen.
>
>   

Nothing wrong with small business.
> And if you are arguing that command and control top down allocation of 
> capital is more efficient than appropriately regulated markets to allocate 
> capital to innovative and fast growing, game changing technologies and 
> services, then we also disagree.
>   

Nope,  socialism  is for stuff in the commons is what should be effected 
not your corner grocer.

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