I think an appropriate "deeper, probing question" might be along the lines of "What has being 'the center of the universe' ever done for anyone except yourself?"
There *might* be some interesting answers to this. If there are, *that* might interest those who care about other human beings in the concept of "everyday enlight- enment." If it's just "feelgood stories," as tartbrain has said more eloquently than I before, I don't see these stories appealing to anyone who isn't "Only in it for the self." --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain <no_re...@...> wrote: > > I think all of that is good. However, as stated, I have not found it very > interesting, yet. I have not listened as extensively as you, and there may be > great gems that I missed. However, others seem to be having the same problem > as I -- in maintaining interest. Perhaps these > may be raw feeds that need a bit of editing -- with the whole left for those > that want full access. > > And as I have suggested in several posts, some deeper probing, while > considerate and sensitive to the fact that these are very personal stories, > would be useful. For example, a Curtis type (Curtis, you are an archetype > already!) examining the statements in an epistimological framework would be > fascinating, IMO. And, bold claims, such as "I experienced being the center > of the universe" deserve a bit more follow-up -- not just "Gee that s great". > > Perhaps you can share the segments, experiences, ideas from the tapes that > you found most interesting. > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" <mainstream20016@> > wrote: > > > > > > For more than two weeks I have repeatedly and closely listened to the > > BATGAP episodes via iTunes downloads via a portable iPod. The BATGAP > > episodes are a fascinating record of the personal histories and subjective > > perspectives of persons who have courage to publicly discuss permanently > > established positive shifts in awareness. Here-to-fore, an individual's > > declaration of a permanent shift in awareness called into question the > > validity of the experience. Rick Archer and the BATGAP interviewees promote > > egalitarian principles of experience and expression of higher states of > > awareness. BATGAP is a vehicle for positive cultural advancement by > > diminishing the influence of exploitive individuals and hierarchical > > institutions that for control purposes employ excessively exclusive > > principles of experience and expression by default and discourage members' > > advancement. > > -Mainstream > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" > > <steve.sundur@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > And the yahoo group -- I read a 20 or so posts. The posters are way > > > > into their heads -- it would appear from their posts. Dry expositions. > > > > While a small sample, i don't see the energy, vibrancy, life surging > > > > from their words. > > > > > > > Hard to strike gold twice. FFL with all it's problems has some good edg > > > (edge) and gets into some interesting discussions. But I think you've > > > pretty well nailed this Buddha at the Gas Pump. And those > > > interviews-I've only listened to the Foster's piece, but there wasn't > > > much there to make me want to push on. Then again, I don't have time to > > > do a lot of speculative exploring. > > > > > >
