On Apr 28, 2010, at 1:23 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> See above where I said "make shit up and try to stuff it
> in my mouth"?
>
> Where exactly did I tout, or even hint at, my "credentials"
> or "training" in this field?
Nowhere. You are trying to make a case that you can make a low
level vetting decision and I am not buying it. So we are just
arguing about where your lack of knowledge comes to play here.
One of the interesting areas where TM researchers/commentators/
reviewers often, inevitably, "shoot themselves in the foot" is in
their description of higher states of consciousness. David Orme-
Johnson, really not all that different from other TM/SCI
"researchers", tries to insinuate some superiority to "witnessing
deep sleep", as opposed to "lucid dreaming". He (and many other TM
commentators/researchers) don't seem to be aware of the fact that
when awareness expands, it expands to ALL spheres of waking, deep
sleep and dreaming. In other words, if you've truly developed the
shaksi or witness-consciousness, it doesn't just arbitrarily "miss"
the other states. If you awaken witness-consciousness, you will also
witness the construct of dreaming arise, utterly conscious of the
whole unfolding dream-deep sleep-waking continuum, not just a piece
of it.
If these allegedly advanced TMers aren't also lucid dreaming, it
doesn't sound like they've actually developed a real witness-
consciousness. Also, if their sleep hasn't diminished considerably
(four hours or less), something quite easy to judge in a standard
sleep lab-style sleep study, it's highly unlikely they're in any
"higher" state of consciousness at all, but merely hypervigilant from
over-indoctrination and indiscriminate acceptance of TM/SCI dogmas.
One thing you can count on David O-J for is a good chuckle. As usual:
he delivers.
