thx, excellent points!  I don't have time to go into this topic at length; but 
basically in answer to question posed in the Bible "Who is your Brother's 
Keeper";...if "Brother/Sister" ends only two doors down, I take issue with that.
 A certain Buddhist perspective (which I groked from various Teachers) is that 
I am responsible for everything and everybody in the universe.  Therefore I 
personally am responsible for Ravi.
otoh, if you prefer not to take such responsibility, that's ok with me.
...
then the questions you posed:  first, praying (I usually pray/chant in 
conjunction with various Deities/Yidams such as Kali, Kwan Yin, etc)...IS DOING 
something.  The enery circulates in the inner planes.  The energy of pujas, 
Yagyas, prayers, etc; eventually manifests physically.
By "doing" something I assume you mean on the physical plane of existence.
That's a very limited pov.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" <yifuxero@> wrote:
> >
> > pray for him in the traditional sense. The combined Shakti 
> > and good-will may steer him in the right direction, whatever 
> > that may be.
> 
> Why does this strike me as exactly the same kind of 
> advice that got Ravi *into* this situation?
> 
> Why does it strike me as the kind of belief that got
> Levi Butler killed? "I know I'm supposed to be watch-
> ing this guy, but I've got to go meditate right now.
> Nothing bad can possibly happen if I do that."
> 
> Where's the point at which people stop praying and 
> DO SOMETHING?
> 
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <do.rflex@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > RICK, she's right. This is potentially as serious as it *gets*.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <salsunshine@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On May 20, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > > [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tartbrain
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:14 AM
> > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior 
> > > > > > revealed.
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF RICK CAN RESPOND AS TO WHAT HE IS DOING, IF 
> > > > > > ANYTHING, SO EFFORTS ARE NOT OVERLAPPING OR COUNTER PRODUCTIVE TO 
> > > > > > EACH OTHER.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I emailed him privately. I'll keep you posted.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Let me get this straight, Rick.  A guy makes 
> > > > > numerous posts that could be interpreted 
> > > > > as violently threatening and indicating that
> > > > > he could very possibly be in the throes of a 
> > > > > psychotic breakdown--and you email that same
> > > > > person to ask...what?  If he's "OK"?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm no psychologist, but one could draw from
> > > > > this the fact that you are trying to avoid dealing
> > > > > with any form of unpleasantness from a person
> > > > > you previously touted as "awakened."
> > > > > 
> > > > > By all means don't do anything if you don't
> > > > > feel like it---it's not like you're responsible for
> > > > > him.  I just hope what you did do isn't used
> > > > > by him as evidence that he really is OK. Because by
> > > > > all appearances, he's on the verge of some
> > > > > serious doo-doo here.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sal
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Why is this all being made into being Rick's responsibility? What really 
> > > can Rick do that anyone else here can't do?
> > >
> >
>


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