--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" <steve.sundur@>
wrote:
> >
> > Instead what we get is the dogma that iron-age Indians believed
> > it so it's true, and worse, now it gets mixed up with victorian
> > parlour room seances. Can no-one else spot the contradiction? You
> > can't have life after death AND re-incarnation, otherwise you'd
> > be talking to someone who's just been born. It makes no sense.
>
> While I agree most heartily with the rest of your coffee
> rant, the above is based on a misunderstanding of the
> notion of reincarnation and the supposed mechanics thereof.
>
> I don't think that any tradition on the planet that believes
> in reincarnation believes that it's "instantaneous," and
> that the death of one body is followed by immediate incarnation
> in another. There's a "gap," discussed at length in Tibetan
> traditions, called the Bardo, a kind of self-defined purgatory
> in which the soul-in-transit works through some of its own
> lingering issues prior to rebirth. In the Tibetan tradition,
> this Bardo period can take a lot longer than nine months to
> go on -- sometimes years. I was just reading some things Rudolf
Steiner wrote about this. According to his research, this period of
reflection and a kind of re-living of the just finished life, lasts
about three quarters of that previous life, and starts from the end and
moves towards the beginning. He also says that the period in between
lives is hundreds of years so new lessons, in a new environment can be
learned. FWIW Also, there is no perceived problem
> with a being *in the Bardo* appearing to the living on some
> astral or astral-like plane -- as a ghost, disembodied voice,
> etc.
>
> I am *not* declaring these things true. I'm "doing a Judy"
> and pointing out that the declaration above is a bit of a
> straw man, in that it's refuting reincarnation using a
> definition of it that no believer in reincarnation would
> ever put forward.
>