So you think the outcomes were the same, teaching the singing the battle hymn and jihad martyrs song to children?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jst...@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Comparing the great Battle Hymn of the Republic to teaching > > Jihad, martyrdom, and glory of death as an end to itself to > > young children is a true sign of a broken moral compass. > > The idea of martyrdom is incompatible with the idea of > death as an end in itself, so you need to take that part > out. The definition of martyrdom is dying for a cause. > "Let us die to make men free" is nothing other than a > call to martyrdom. > > As for a martyr's death being glorious: > > In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea, > With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me: > As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, > > And this is a call to Jihad, holy war: > > He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat; > He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment-seat: > Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! be jubilant, my feet! > > And bearing in mind that the Battle Hymn is taught to > children, you aren't left with a whole lot of difference > with which to guide your moral compass: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7HJOTVA-t0 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7hzRSii4Ao > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjDksUAzTsM&feature=related > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9diTrarFfI&feature=related > > > I can't make this up > > You just did. > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > Oooof. Slam-dunk. > > > > > > "As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, > > > While God is marching on." > > > > > > (And damn, it's such a wonderful tune...) > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ditzyklanmail <carc108@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Peace is much better to deal with. > > > > > > > > Children were being taught this song and spread word of mouth in the > > > > 1800's. I remember singing this song in school, taught by the public > > > > school system of America. : ) > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Battle_Hymn_of_the_Republic > > > > > > > > Lyrics > > > > Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord: > > > > He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored; > > > > He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword: > > > > His truth is marching on. > > > > (Chorus) > > > > Glory, glory, hallelujah! > > > > Glory, glory, hallelujah! > > > > Glory, glory, hallelujah! > > > > His truth is marching on. > > > > I have seen Him in the watch-fires of a hundred circling camps, > > > > They have builded Him an altar in the evening dews and damps; > > > > I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps: > > > > His day is marching on. > > > > (Chorus) > > > > Glory, glory, hallelujah! > > > > Glory, glory, hallelujah! > > > > Glory, glory, hallelujah! > > > > His day is marching on. > > > > I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel: > > > > "As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal; > > > > Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel, > > > > Since God is marching on." > > > > (Chorus) > > > > Glory, glory, hallelujah! > > > > Glory, glory, hallelujah! > > > > Glory, glory, hallelujah! > > > > Since God is marching on. > > > > He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat; > > > > He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment-seat: > > > > Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! be jubilant, my feet! > > > > Our God is marching on. > > > > (Chorus) > > > > Glory, glory, hallelujah! > > > > Glory, glory, hallelujah! > > > > Glory, glory, hallelujah! > > > > Our God is marching on. > > > > In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea, > > > > With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me: > > > > As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free, > > > > While God is marching on. > > > > (Chorus) > > > > Glory, glory, hallelujah! > > > > Glory, glory, hallelujah! > > > > Glory, glory, hallelujah! > > > > While God is marching on. > > > > He is coming like the glory of the morning on the wave, > > > > He is Wisdom to the mighty, He is Succour to the brave, > > > > So the world shall be His footstool, and the soul of Time His slave, > > > > Our God is marching on. > > > > (Chorus) > > > > Glory, glory, hallelujah! > > > > Glory, glory, hallelujah! > > > > Glory, glory, hallelujah! > > > > Our God is marching on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: sgrayatlarge <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Wed, 23 June, 2010 6:48:50 PM > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video of Muslim children singing ..... No > > > > Greater honor than to Die a Martyr > > > > > > > > > > > > You think this is typical propaganda? This is systematic brainwashing > > > > of the most hideous/evil kind. To children! Feeling sorry will not cut > > > > it. It needs to be stopped, otherwise, feel sorry for the ones who will > > > > be torn to bits and murdered by these same children who grow up to be > > > > suicide bombers. > > > > > > > > Otherwise the world will continue to feel sorry and nothing happens and > > > > Israel continues to be condemmed by world opinion. Life goes on, and we > > > > feel good feeling sorry as if this is enough. > > > > > > > > It's not > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ditzyklanmail <carc108@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I feel sorry for everyone who falls for propaganda everywhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: wgm4u <wgm4u@> > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Sent: Wed, 23 June, 2010 12:20:23 PM > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video of Muslim children singing ..... > > > > > No Greater honor than to Die a Martyr > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You want to see the early makings of a suicide bomber? Watch and > > > > > > learn > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=illF1vt5g1Q > > > > > > > > > > How sick and misguided and yet, what a great production, great > > > > > talent, even the song is catchy. I feel sorry for Israel, and the > > > > > World, for such hate to exist. > > > > > > > > > > To think that a (suicide bomber) martyr is "God's favorite"?, how > > > > > sick and twisted! Those children are being brainwashed for the sake > > > > > revenge and material desire for land that will some day vanish like > > > > > so many snowflakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
