--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Unc, I am going to snip out what I believe to be the irrelevant 
> parts of your response and leave in the parts I want to address.
> 
> You wrote:
> 
> 
> > > Did you experience it only once?
> > 
> > Nope.  Many times.  As did most of the other students who 
> > studied with the guy.  I will also emphasise, for the record, the
> > word "most."  Some people (10-15) never saw anything;
> > others (1000s over the years, sometimes 500 at once) saw
> > this stuff all the time.  Therefore, it would appear to be a 
> > phenomenon that is not entirely physical, and takes place
> > at least to some extent on subtle physical levels.  If you're
> > asking whether it was ever recorded on film, I don't think
> > so, and I don't know whether it could have been.  But it was
> > neat to witness, both as a phenomenon and as a field of
> > energy to be part of.  The latter was the real benefit of 
> > being around someone who is doing this, IMO.
> > 
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > 
> > Because some people saw this phenomenon and others
> > in the same room did not, I have my doubts that it would
> > have been captured on videotape.
> >  
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > I will also admit, for the same reasons, that there might have
> > been some kind of psychic siddhi going on, in which people's
> > perceptions were altered to allow them to see a phenomenon
> > that might not have been present on a physical level.  But 
> > there was never any suggestion of what was about to happen.
> > The most he'd ever say was, "Watch."  He never said *what*
> > to watch for, and levitation was only one of the siddhis he was
> > good at, so there was no telling what, if anything, was going
> > to happen.  And yet most of us saw stuff, and everyone who 
> > saw it agreed on what was seen.  
> 
> [snip]
> 
> Now, Unc, let me contrast what you said above with what you 
> originally wrote:
> 
> "I've witnessed real, hanging-ten-in-mid-air levitation."
> 
> I think you would agree with me when I conclude that you have NOT 
> witnessed "real, hinging-ten-in-mid-air levitation" as you first 
> claimed.  

No, I have.  Hundreds of times.  You're just trying to
disbelieve it.  I understand.  I tried to disbelieve it
myself.  Didn't work.

> Indeed, you then readily admitted that not only was it 
> possible that there was "some kind of psychic siddhi going on, in 
> which people's perceptions were altered to allow them to see a 
> phenomenon that might not have been present on a physical level" but 
> that not everyone in the room where this was going on actually 
> witnessed it.
> 
> So.
> 
> To me, the important question is: why did you feel the compulsion to 
> tell us that you DID see "real" levitation when it is obvious that --
>  even in your own words -- what you experienced was very far from 
> what could remotely be described as "real"?

Shemp, you are seriously missing the point.  I'm sitting
in front of you.  I slowly lift up off my chair and hover in
mid-air for a few minutes.  You see this clearly.  You 
actually pinch yourself to make sure you're not dream-
ing.  You get up and walk all the way around me, to
make sure there are no hidden wires or anything.  
Then I settle back down onto the chair again.

No one else is in the room.  There are no video cameras.
Did you just see what you saw, or not?

THAT is the reality of the situation, except that in my 
case there were often hundreds of people in the room
with me, seeing the same thing.  

It doesn't MATTER how it was done.  You saw it.  And
now you have to live with what you saw.  THAT is the
reality of the situation.

YOU are the one who is looking for "proof" that what I
experienced was what you'd like to consider "real"
levitation.  I have no such need.  I experienced what
I experienced.  I was more than honest about relating
it here.  I'm not trying to sell you anything or convince
you of anything.  I just explained my experience.

I *understand* that it freaks you out and you'd like to
not believe it.  I *understand* that if I were able to show
you video, you would STILLnot believe it.  I really *do*
understand.  I didn't want to believe it, either, and I was
there seeing it happen.  

But I'm not gonna nitpick with you over your disbelief.
It's yours.  I got over mine years ago.  

Unc







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